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Barring chords
    #7225768 - 07/26/07 09:56 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Does anyone have any tips? I'm trying to master F major, but it is not simple. Sigh.

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Re: Barring chords [Re: implicitli]
    #7225789 - 07/26/07 10:03 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

just keep at it

a lot of times you can have open strings and it sounds even cooler, in my opinion

good luck!!
you'll get it!
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Re: Barring chords [Re: dirtworshipper]
    #7225858 - 07/26/07 10:23 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks, man. I'm going to keep trying, and I love the idea that it sounds cooler a little off. You rock.

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Re: Barring chords [Re: implicitli]
    #7226060 - 07/26/07 11:08 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

it's all about practice. i remember i used to play for like at least 4 straight hours everyday when i first started. i haven't played in a while so i'm a little rusty but feeling those strings vibrating against my fingertips is great. :yesnod:

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Re: Barring chords [Re: implicitli]
    #7226430 - 07/26/07 12:25 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

just keep practicing. its all you can do. when i started i didn't have much of a problem with chords. but B and (especially) D# are bitches to get the hang of.

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Re: Barring chords [Re: implicitli]
    #7226646 - 07/26/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

the F is the hardest because it costs more strength to make all the strings sound right. better start practicing with a higher bar chord like an A

and in the mean time play the F like this until you have enough strength:

e-1-
b-1-
g-2-
d-3-
a-x-
E-x-

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Re: Barring chords [Re: stefan]
    #7226848 - 07/26/07 02:13 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

honestly, I've always thought the four-string method of the f chord is even harder than the full barre. :shrug:

to whoever said the b chords are bitches: agreed. :mad2:


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Re: Barring chords [Re: lukeboots]
    #7226917 - 07/26/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

it is a little weird fretting the high E string on the first fret
but you don't even really have to do that
in my opinion, the high E open sounds good
:grin:

good pointing out that "shortcut" F chord, I completely forgot about it
I played F that way for a while, still do sometimes actually


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Re: Barring chords [Re: implicitli]
    #7227044 - 07/26/07 03:12 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

For barre chords, most of the pressure used to fret the barre should come from the weight of your fretting arm, as if it's 'hanging' from the neck.  Only use enough 'squeezing' pressure to make sure all the notes ring clearly.

F major at the first fret is one of the hardest chords to get used to, especially on an acoustic. :crankey:


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Re: Barring chords [Re: dirtworshipper]
    #7227053 - 07/26/07 03:14 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

dirtworshipper said:
it is a little weird fretting the high E string on the first fret
but you don't even really have to do that
in my opinion, the high E open sounds good
:grin:





:yesnod:

But then it becomes an Fmaj7


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Re: Barring chords [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7227122 - 07/26/07 03:36 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

very true
but not if you mute it
:grin:


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Re: Barring chords [Re: implicitli]
    #7229143 - 07/27/07 02:01 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Don't push so much with your thumb. That hurts my hand too.

Also, instead of barring all the frets with your index finger, use it just to hold the F, or 1, on the highest string, then use your thumb to play the F, or 1, on the lowest string. I find that way easier to switch between the chords than when using the barre chords.

E-1- Index
B-2- Middle
G-3- Pinky
D-3- Ring
A-x-
E-1- Thumb

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Re: Barring chords [Re: PinballWizard]
    #7229315 - 07/27/07 02:47 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Now that I think about it, I was quite wrong. It should be:

E-1- Index
B-1- Index
G-2- Middle
D-3- Ring
A-x-
E-1- Thumb

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Re: Barring chords [Re: implicitli]
    #7229415 - 07/27/07 03:49 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Ok, this is just my advice.. but. Start doing pushups on your finger tips and stretch your fingers daily too. Coordination exercises with your fingers ... like spinning individual fingers on both hands at once, rotating through all your fingers.

I do pushups on my fingertips. It realy helps grip strength and finger coordination.

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Re: Barring chords [Re: PinballWizard]
    #7229830 - 07/27/07 09:30 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

i think it looks awful when people do that. :shrug:

but fuck what i think, do whatever works for you. :yesnod:

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Re: Barring chords [Re: maggotz]
    #7230032 - 07/27/07 10:38 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I get what you're saying, but my thumb is up there anyway so I might as well use it.

Edited by PinballWizard (07/27/07 02:15 PM)

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Re: Barring chords [Re: PinballWizard]
    #7231025 - 07/27/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

That 'thumb' voicing for the E-form barre chords sounds really good to my ears, I guess because the low fifth is left out of the chord, cleaning it up a little. Jimi Hendrix did it all the time. I don't do it because my hands are relatively small.


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Re: Barring chords [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7231656 - 07/27/07 07:16 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I think it jangles a bit more that way. I like picking between the root bass note and the other strings. Jimi Hendrix looks kind of funny when he does it. If you've ever seen Woodstock, Richie Havens barres the whole 6 strings with his thumb.

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Re: Barring chords [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #18338765 - 05/29/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

WhiskeyClone said:
For barre chords, most of the pressure used to fret the barre should come from the weight of your fretting arm, as if it's 'hanging' from the neck.  Only use enough 'squeezing' pressure to make sure all the notes ring clearly.

F major at the first fret is one of the hardest chords to get used to, especially on an acoustic. :crankey:




damn, i know this is a 5 year old thread but

i realized i couldnt get them all to sound out with finger strength alone so i started to push up on the strings with my arm instead

didnt even realize i could and should be pulling down instead:facepalm3: 

thanks for the tip


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