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Epigallo
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Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think?
#7216270 - 07/23/07 11:25 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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I mean on this forum?
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dblaney
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: Epigallo]
#7216284 - 07/23/07 11:30 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Always, including this statement.
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: dblaney]
#7216287 - 07/23/07 11:30 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Seriously though, I do sometimes. Do you?
-------------------- "What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?" "Belief is a beautiful armor But makes for the heaviest sword" - John Mayer Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin. "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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Epigallo
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: dblaney]
#7216295 - 07/23/07 11:34 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah, sometimes
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: Epigallo]
#7216321 - 07/23/07 11:43 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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only a fool would never argue both sides
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: fearfect]
#7216360 - 07/24/07 12:02 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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fearfect said: only a fool would never argue both sides
And isn't the view you just presented a one-side view? One that does not leave room for the other perspective(s)?
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7216377 - 07/24/07 12:06 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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All the time....
You get a better understanding of the "opposite" and thus could lead to a stronger belief in the original belief.
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7216401 - 07/24/07 12:14 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
MushroomTrip said:
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fearfect said: only a fool would never argue both sides
And isn't the view you just presented a one-side view? One that does not leave room for the other perspective(s)?
fool: [noun] a person who lacks judgment
what I said is a fact not open for argument
you are not able to pass good judgment on a situation unless you consider all sides evenly
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: fearfect]
#7216422 - 07/24/07 12:22 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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And do you consider you made a good judgment when you made that assertion? Does it universally apply?
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7216754 - 07/24/07 02:18 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes , but the psyche has to be protected against the overworking of this technique..it possible to go native and start to 'be-living' the point of view you actually do not align with if its overdone.
For instance a mantra often repeated is to "be your own worst critic" ,, and the logic is sound . but if its done too often and not tidied up afterwards the collateral of all the criticisms can linger in the psyche (thats one of the best uses of psilosibin for me to realign my psyche to what i should be-live - psychological/spiritual spring cleaning etc) .
I dont practice this in public forums however , it just seems unwarrantably destructive to spread it around like that to me , its generally an internal dialog for self correction and fault finding ..
For instance if thinking criticism of someone for an percieved personality fault i have found it useful to turn that criticism back on myself by way of a philosophical test of validity. But its a fairly dangerous policy , the criticisms even if stretched to the point of fabrication can assume in that mind space a life of their own .
In public forum tho .. no not intentionally ever really, it seems to destructive and serve no constructive evolutionary purpose .
In a nutshell i recall a saying attributed to Jesus ..
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.. asked if there was foods that the seeker should be aware of .. Jesus replied that no its generally not such a issue at all what goes into the mouth in that regard .. rather it is with regard to the words that come out of out mouths that are important ..
And again from "the 300"'s opening scenes Quote:
".. Before you speak , Persian , know that in Sparta everyone - even the kings messenger - is held accountable for the words of his voice .."
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: Epigallo]
#7216795 - 07/24/07 03:00 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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it's important to have someone play the devil's advocate...by doing so you and whoever you are debating may discover something new.
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: Epigallo]
#7216910 - 07/24/07 04:56 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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> Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think?
Often, I do.
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7217214 - 07/24/07 09:06 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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MushroomTrip said:
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fearfect said: only a fool would never argue both sides
And isn't the view you just presented a one-side view? One that does not leave room for the other perspective(s)?
He never said "only a fool would argue both sides", so apparently he is a fool for not arguing both sides of his point of view....
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: Epigallo]
#7217477 - 07/24/07 10:44 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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I never argue both sides myself. I let my puppets do it.
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: Rhizoid]
#7217491 - 07/24/07 10:48 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: fireworks_god]
#7219761 - 07/24/07 07:34 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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I never lie, cheat, steal, or argue opposite of the truth. I swear.
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: Epigallo]
#7240731 - 07/30/07 06:05 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Christ, chicks do it as a matter of course.
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: Epigallo]
#7241852 - 07/30/07 11:50 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea i kinda did today and got two bad ratings
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Re: Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think? [Re: Epigallo]
#7243437 - 07/31/07 11:27 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Do you ever argue the opposite of what you really think?" Only in my mind, so my discussion partners/oponents will have a wild open field to play And I will play with them all along trying to keep my and their mind set up
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