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 OneMoreRobot3021
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 Militaristic vegans. How annoying.  1
#7089105 - 06/24/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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So there I am this afternoon just enjoying a good read in the park, leafing through Philip K. Dick's The Man in the High Castle and soaking up some rays. Minding my own goddamn business. A woman comes and sits on the bench right next to mine, and she's got three big gorgeous dogs with her. I pet one of the dogs and she and I share a very nice kind smile, and then I go back to my book.
A couple of minutes later she leans over...
"Excuse me?"
"Yes?"
"Are you a vegetarian?"
"No, actually, I'm not."
She reaches into her purse and pulls out a couple of pamphlets to hand me. I put out my hand flat and vertical to stop her.
"I don't really have any intention of ever not eating meat."
"Oh. So you like cruelty and death then?"
What the fucking hell can lead someone to make such a wretched jump in logic? I think all the fucking vegetables go to these people's sick heads.
"No, I like to eat meat."
She pushes the pamphlets towards me.
"You know, I came to the park to read, not to be preached to."
At this point i just turn and bury my head back in my book. And then she asks me, "Can I take a photo of you?" Fuck no you can't. Begone!
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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.
-Erik Davis
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 Madtowntripper
Sun-Beams out of Cucumbers
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Tell me more about the book.
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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway
If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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Muufokfok
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 show her whatsup
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As the ocean waves, the universe "peoples"
~Alan Watts~
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AlteredAgain
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worship my god. it is the only true god.
eat my way. it is the only true way.
notice the similarities?
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OneMoreRobot3021
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Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Madtowntripper] 1
#7089141 - 06/24/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Madtowntripper said:
Tell me more about the book.
It imagines a world in which the Axis powers won World War II. Africa is a barren wasteland, most blacks having perished in Nazi experiments. America is divided into 3 states - the Rocky Mountain States, the Eastern States (a.k.a. United States), and the Pacific States. The Rocky Mountain States exist under joint control while Germany controls the east and Japan the west.
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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.
-Erik Davis
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Madtowntripper
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Now see, that sounds like something I would like.
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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway
If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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OneMoreRobot3021
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Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Madtowntripper] 1
#7089178 - 06/24/07 11:00 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I love Phil Dick. The quote from The New York Times Book Review on the back sums it up: His best novels involve a future that is at once entirely recognizable and completely unimaginable.
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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.
-Erik Davis
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Redstorm
Prince of Bugs
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Damn, I'm gonna have to check that out. It sounds amazing.
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Madtowntripper
Sun-Beams out of Cucumbers
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Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Redstorm] 1
#7089191 - 06/24/07 11:03 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I will have to spend a leisurely afternoon at Barnes & Noble when I get back home reading that.
I can't afford to buy new books anymore, and I refuse to wait until the library gets them for me. That does sound like a great read though...
ATTN REDSTORM: I like your sig quote. Is that new?
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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway
If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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Butta
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I will never begin to understand vegans. I DO know that they shit me up the wall, however.
You know what? Yeah I feel guilty about animals being slaughtered for my benefit. But fuck, guess what? We got the thumbs. And the brain that does heaps of awesome stuff. And we need things from meat to survive.
Call the bitch a wahmbulance.
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Victims; aren't we all?
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OneMoreRobot3021
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Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Madtowntripper] 1
#7089194 - 06/24/07 11:03 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have sigs turned off, someone copy and paste it for me pretty please.
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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.
-Erik Davis
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Redstorm
Prince of Bugs
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Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Madtowntripper] 1
#7089198 - 06/24/07 11:04 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes it is. I just read it a couple days ago and struck me as very, very acceptable for being close to 200 years old.
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AlteredAgain
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Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Butta] 1
#7089216 - 06/24/07 11:08 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Butta said:
And we need things from meat to survive.
a meat diet is nonessential to living. vital b12 can be alternatively obtained through chlorella, spirulina, and other various seaweeds. the better argument would be that meat simply tastes good to most of us. 
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Butta
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Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: AlteredAgain] 1
#7089237 - 06/24/07 11:17 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
AlteredAgain said:
Quote:
Butta said:
And we need things from meat to survive.
a meat diet is nonessential to living. vital b12 can be alternatively obtained through chlorella, spirulina, and other various seaweeds. the better argument would be that meat simply tastes good to most of us.
Ok, fair play, but what about places that don't have easy access to seaweed? Don't see Africans eating sushi 
For the hundreds of thousands of years we've been trotting about on this planet, we've been eating stuff that makes noises. Fuck them for getting all uppity about it now
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Madtowntripper
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Quote:
OneMoreRobot3021 said:
I have sigs turned off, someone copy and paste it for me pretty please.
[quote]"What good does it do me, after all, if an ever-watchful authority keeps an eye out to ensure that my pleasures will be tranquil and races ahead of me to ward off all danger, sparing me the need even to think about such things, if that authority, even as it removes the smallest thorns from my path, is also absolute master of my liberty and my life; if it monopolizes vitality and existence to such a degree that when it languishes, everything around it must also languish; when it sleeps, everything must also sleep; and when it dies, everything must also perish?"
- Alexis de Tocqueville (on the centralization of administration)
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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway
If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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OneMoreRobot3021
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Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Madtowntripper] 1
#7089254 - 06/24/07 11:21 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Lovely. Is that from Democracy in America? I read that a long while ago.
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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.
-Erik Davis
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HELLA_TIGHT
Madge the Smoking Vag
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Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Butta] 1
#7089260 - 06/24/07 11:22 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Butta said:
You know what? Yeah I feel guilty about animals being slaughtered for my benefit.
Why? Thanks to farming, cattle and pigs are some of the most widespread animals. Fuck em.
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OneMoreRobot3021
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Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT] 1
#7089261 - 06/24/07 11:23 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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All those fucking cows are farting holes into my goddamn atmosphere. Burger me, baby!
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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.
-Erik Davis
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Redstorm
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Quote:
OneMoreRobot3021 said:
Lovely. Is that from Democracy in America? I read that a long while ago.
Yes it is. I just realized last week that I never took a political theories class, so I'll using my time now to try to self-teach myself the pillars.
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Madge the Smoking Vag
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