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Narghile
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Would a flooded jar pose a contamination problem?
#7081567 - 06/22/07 09:25 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is my first grow (of course this is NOT true). I PC'd a batch of jars and inoculated them without looking at them, trying to make sure they were exposed to as little air as possible. upon looking at them a few days later i noticed two of my jars were flooded. I (and my paranoid ways) was checking to see if flooding might stunt the mycelium's growth or pose a problem of possible contamination. Here are pics of the jars (the camera isn't that great):
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb79/narghile_2007/HPIM0234.jpg http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb79/narghile_2007/HPIM0233.jpg
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Would a flooded jar pose a contamination problem? [Re: Narghile]
#7081980 - 06/22/07 11:26 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I won't open offsite images, so I didn't see your pictures, but a flooded jar will be very slow to colonize, if it can colonize at all. You want to be sure to elevate the jars out of the water when you sterilize. They only need the steam, not the water. Be sure to cover the tops with foil to keep the drips that fall off the lid from entering the jars. RR
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Seventy
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Re: Would a flooded jar pose a contamination problem? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7082063 - 06/22/07 11:53 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I had 3 of my jars get flooded when I first made my PF tek jars, needless to say they were all toast within a week of inoculation. When I opened them up they smelled like sickening puke.
I'd just say forget the jars that got flooded, they won't yield very good growth, and as RR said, they will be very slow to colonize.
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Narghile
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Re: Would a flooded jar pose a contamination problem? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7083078 - 06/23/07 10:05 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you for the info, RR and Seventy. I was wondering since not all of the jar was flooded and no strange odors were present, if i could salvage some of the kernels and trash the rest. Here are some pictures from shroomery (sorry about that):
Edited by Narghile (06/23/07 10:09 AM)
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Horse_Meister
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Re: Would a flooded jar pose a contamination problem? [Re: Narghile]
#7088600 - 06/24/07 08:17 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Righteo. I'll just shoot off my opinion and advice.
Opinion:
Standing water is never a good idea. Mycelium has a horrid time trying to chew through something that is too wet. If it's not possible to, then that wet will sit until a competing 'contamn' enters and takes over that part. Once that happens, best of luck.
Advice:
Soak grains for 12 hrs. Rinse in a strainer & make sure there is not much sitting water in the strainer when you dump it into another pot. From there, transfer it over to either your jars or filter patch bags.
Reasons for soaking:
allows bacteria to grow sterilization kills most if not all competing bacteria minimizes sitting pools of water in your spawn medium
Recommendation:
You seem new based on your post count & start date as well as technique. Should you find a few extra dollars laying around, check out buying:
filter patch bags (most vendors sell ~ going rate is $50 CAD for 100 of them + shipping) impulse sealer (ebay for $35 US + shipping - make sure the width is enough for the bags you purchase)
Check out: http://www.shroomery.org/8398/Preparing-spawn-bags to learn it before you buy it.
You will save yourself a tonne of hassle that you find yourself with when dealing with jars.
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The shroomy 1
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Re: Would a flooded jar pose a contamination problem? [Re: Narghile]
#7097932 - 06/27/07 07:49 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've accidentally flooded a couple of jars a time or two. My experience was complete contamination. I tried both times to try and salvage them. Just a waste of time! If it ever happens again, I would just trash them and start over right away.
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dr_asterisk
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Re: Would a flooded jar pose a contamination problem? [Re: The shroomy 1]
#7098480 - 06/27/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Is that corn-on-the-cobb in those jars?
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Narghile
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Re: Would a flooded jar pose a contamination problem? [Re: dr_asterisk]
#7107457 - 06/29/07 02:19 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Actually it's yellow popcorn bought from Food Lion. I already got rid of my two flooded jars, and my other 6 jars are doing fine.
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