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GrizzyCappy
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Destroying a hard drive for 100%.
#7009402 - 06/04/07 07:31 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Say you get wind the cops are coming over. Or say they're already at the door.
What can you do to ensure 100% that no data can be recovered from your hard drive? Is a hammer to the disk itself enough? A blade across the surface? Death by fire?
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: GrizzyCappy]
#7009415 - 06/04/07 07:33 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Throw it in a vat of molten metal.
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: Amatoxin]
#7009429 - 06/04/07 07:36 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Buy a new one and replace it with the old one.
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: Amatoxin]
#7009435 - 06/04/07 07:37 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Magnet wipe it with a really strong magnet, or thermite away!
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: GrizzyCappy]
#7009437 - 06/04/07 07:37 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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sounds like a scary situation. I'd say that hammering it to pieces would almost certainly destroy it, unless the forensics investigators glued it back together
to make sure, I'd bury each broken piece in a different area of the world, with the last piece lost to Davy Jones' Locker. it's your only hope.
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: GrizzyCappy]
#7009440 - 06/04/07 07:38 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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A strong magnetic field close by will fuxxor up a HD so it can't be read.
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GrizzyCappy
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: JunkFood]
#7009443 - 06/04/07 07:38 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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No dude, I'm talking about destroying potential evidence. After reading all these articles about how people get busted for net-related drug stuff...
I don't need to replace it. I want it to stop existing.
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: GrizzyCappy]
#7009445 - 06/04/07 07:38 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just throw everything in the recycle bin and then right-click it and click "Empty recycle bin".
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: Le_Canard]
#7009448 - 06/04/07 07:39 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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ToiletDuk said: A strong magnetic field close by will fuxxor up a HD so it can't be read.
how strong a magnet are we talking about? earth magnets, or something a little more reasonable?
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GrizzyCappy
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: GrizzyCappy]
#7009450 - 06/04/07 07:39 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Problem with a magnet is you can't see the results until you hand the drive to them, so how can you be sure?
Can it be put back together and read if it's busted?
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JunkFood
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: GrizzyCappy]
#7009453 - 06/04/07 07:40 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
GrizzyCappy said: No dude, I'm talking about destroying potential evidence. After reading all these articles about how people get busted for net-related drug stuff...
I don't need to replace it. I want it to stop existing.
What I was saying was: get a new HD and hide your old one; use the new one as a decoy so when they take your computer you have a contraband-free HD.
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: JunkFood]
#7009461 - 06/04/07 07:42 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I hear you, but what if they do a top down search and find the hidden one? What if some of the evidence could be recent activity on a drug forum?
I need a quick solution to the proverbial "what if" crazy situation, the one where you don't have time to warm the molten metal.
I'm picturing a situation of running into the bathroom with a harddrive and a (hammer/torch/magnet).
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: GrizzyCappy]
#7009465 - 06/04/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Um, just give it to a friend?
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: GrizzyCappy]
#7009468 - 06/04/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Drill it into swiss cheese?
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: JunkFood]
#7009476 - 06/04/07 07:46 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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JunkFood said: Just throw everything in the recycle bin and then right-click it and click "Empty recycle bin".
LOL, no that won't work. There is plenty of software to recover deleted data.
The best, fastest, most "what do i have around the house" way of doing it is taking it out and drilling a few 1/4" holes in the drive. The drill will powder minute pieces as it drills through, and I don't think it could be recovered by anyone.
After drilling, put it in a sink with scalding water for as long as you can and then dump it in the bottom of the trash can.
Edited by myndreach (06/04/07 07:48 PM)
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: GrizzyCappy]
#7009478 - 06/04/07 07:47 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: HB]
#7009487 - 06/04/07 07:49 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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HB said: Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
what a great post, with the picture and all
Edited by myndreach (06/04/07 07:49 PM)
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: JunkFood]
#7009490 - 06/04/07 07:49 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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JunkFood said: Just throw everything in the recycle bin and then right-click it and click "Empty recycle bin".
lol
When you delete something from your HD, Windows only deletes the index entry that points to the data. The data remains, the computer just dont know where to start looking.
If it is THAT important to you that your stressin' over what data is on your HD, then for your sake, get rid of it.
This magnet idea is plausable, but not as affective as you may think. The magnet will disrupt data, maybe even a whole bunch of it. But it wont re-arrange every bit on the entire drive. Granted, it will prolly make the drive unusable, but lots of data will still be intact. Forensics dont just plug the drive in and hope it works, they'll remove the plates and build a fresh drive, then they'll get every last peice of data that was remaining on the plates.
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: GrizzyCappy]
#7009497 - 06/04/07 07:51 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've heard scrubbing with half a lemon works too
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Re: Destroying a hard drive for 100%. [Re: GrizzyCappy]
#7009508 - 06/04/07 07:54 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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GrizzyCappy said: Say you get wind the cops are coming over. Or say they're already at the door.
What can you do to ensure 100% that no data can be recovered from your hard drive? Is a hammer to the disk itself enough? A blade across the surface? Death by fire?
I worked at a computer repair place. Some Air Force guys brought in a classified laptop to be repaired. When they found out we couldn't fix it, they destroyed the drive, just the way you said. Took it out to the parking lot and beat the hell out of it with a big hammer. Good enough for military classified security.
But I wouldn't do that. Simple fdisk and reformat, plus some free drive-wiper software (do a search) would satisfy me.
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