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 joekenorer
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Is the Shroomery too popular? 
#6993106 - 05/31/07 08:11 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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It seems like the site has grown extraordinarily in the last 3-4 years. Could this be bad for the mushroom scene? It won't be long before we hear about it on the news. Some kid having a bad trip could any day point at the Shroomery for providing him the information he needed to find the shrooms. How long can this site last at this rate of growth and popularity? How long will the huge shroom culture last once religious right wing extremist finally catch on to how many people are growing and ingesting these things? I'm starting to worry. I don't want "Anti-shroom" chemicals to become a common purchase for people who own cow fields because everyones talking about the evil fungus that grows there.
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My favorites are weeping willows, which aren't really weeping at all. They're very wispy, witty and will dance in the breeze with you. Nothing like a tree that wants to dance with you. Although it doesn't like its thin limbs being pulled at all, it absolutely LOVES it when you walk through them, letting them gently slide over your face and shoulders. If you're naked, the willow considers it to be sex. It will orgasm on your mind and you will blow dream chunks into outer space. All very fun until your neighbor sees you. -The Joekenorer
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 Montanahunter420
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 Re: Is the Shroomery too popular? [Re: joekenorer]
#6993186 - 05/31/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I highly doubt there is any Anti-shroom chemicals as the would be needed to be placed on the grass. What is likely to kill a mushroom would more than likely kill the grass which would prevent the cow from grazing. If it didn't kill the grass it would probably be harmful for the cows. Therefore it would be more of a risk for a farmer to put this chemical on his field. Also do you really think he is going to waste his income just so you can't get high? A lawsuit against the shroomery would be a more likely scenario. Although a better discliamer would be a good idea that could prevent this. Then again I am pretty sure this site already speaks with attorneys so I think everything should be in the clear. My worry would be puppet cops creating accounts here to try and bust someone if the site becomes to popular.
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joekenorer
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but certainly all it would take is for the press to talk about it on the evening news. As far as anti-shroom chemicals, none of us are herbacide specialists and have no idea if they have something, or can develop something to do the job. And yes, many farmers do care. And I agree, we need a much better disclaimer.
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My favorites are weeping willows, which aren't really weeping at all. They're very wispy, witty and will dance in the breeze with you. Nothing like a tree that wants to dance with you. Although it doesn't like its thin limbs being pulled at all, it absolutely LOVES it when you walk through them, letting them gently slide over your face and shoulders. If you're naked, the willow considers it to be sex. It will orgasm on your mind and you will blow dream chunks into outer space. All very fun until your neighbor sees you. -The Joekenorer
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Ferris
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I don't know if you can call it a fad, but regardless, I'm betting things will die down a little bit eventually. On the other hand, any subculture in a world of 6-7 billion people is going to be big enough to support a large website.
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Booby
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Re: Is the Shroomery too popular? [Re: joekenorer]
#6993254 - 05/31/07 08:32 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Actualy the site already died and is only a figment of our imagination.....
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pscillyme
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Re: Is the Shroomery too popular? [Re: joekenorer]
#6993259 - 05/31/07 08:32 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Salt licks are mildly effective on shroom growth, & are commonly used for that reason...
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Ferris
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Re: Is the Shroomery too popular? [Re: Booby]
#6993264 - 05/31/07 08:33 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Booby said:
Actualy the site already died and is only a figment of our imagination.....
There will also be those who take too many drugs in their day and forget how to use a computer.
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Rats_are_Dancin
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Re: Is the Shroomery too popular? [Re: Ferris]
#6993303 - 05/31/07 08:42 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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There is not real "Anti Shroom" chemical out there that would not kill both the grass and cow and I have some experience with chemicals. As to the site im sure Cops already do search the site but I believe they have bigger fish to fry, and much larger "Drug" related site's are around and have been going for years and not shut down.
Anyhoo I thought everyone was here to learn about Mycology 
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joekenorer
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The internet is still new to the world. Laws have not been completely defined, and may not ever be. Over optimism, though, always seems to be a harbinger of bad things.
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My favorites are weeping willows, which aren't really weeping at all. They're very wispy, witty and will dance in the breeze with you. Nothing like a tree that wants to dance with you. Although it doesn't like its thin limbs being pulled at all, it absolutely LOVES it when you walk through them, letting them gently slide over your face and shoulders. If you're naked, the willow considers it to be sex. It will orgasm on your mind and you will blow dream chunks into outer space. All very fun until your neighbor sees you. -The Joekenorer
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Re: Is the Shroomery too popular? [Re: joekenorer]
#6993387 - 05/31/07 09:00 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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There are no anti-shroom chemicals that would be effective against an entire field for more than a few days.
And no farmer would pay money for such a thing. It would get into the groundwater and cause all sorts of problems.
I don't predict any death for the shroomery either - People are allowed to talk about what ever they want. It could create some legal liability, but they can't put you in jail for not paying.
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Re: Is the Shroomery too popular? [Re: pscillyme]
#6993392 - 05/31/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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pscillyme said:
Salt licks are mildly effective on shroom growth, & are commonly used for that reason...
I have picked loads of mushrooms from all around salt licks..
Farmers have better things to do than try and figure out how to kill mushrooms...
Popularity and the Shroomery?
Lots of new faces and the same old questions just asked by someone new!
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mjshroomer
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Re: Is the Shroomery too popular? [Re: pscillyme]
#6994204 - 06/01/07 12:57 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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pscillyme said:
Salt licks are mildly effective on shroom growth, & are commonly used for that reason...
What planet are you from. Salt licks are natural for cows. they need salt.
the salt has no effect whatsoever on shroom growth. I have picked shrooms on both Maui and Oahu and on the big Island of Hawaii growing let then twenty feet from the ocean which send misty spray onto the pasture lands edge near the water and shrooms grow well in the decomposed cow shit their./ All copelanida species.
Also well fertilized lawns int eh PNW and other regions of the world are great habitats for manured shrooms which grow with the mycelial roots attached to the wild grasses. Spores come either in the fertilizers or in the top soil mixed with manure in the form of sod and also from liquid fertilizers sprayed into cow pasture lands from big tankers or from little thermos type sprayers used on lawns by landscappers.
Those chemicals hurt no one. I have picked a few hundred pounds of blur ringers in the passed 35 years. WE have had lawns in Seattle with wall to wall shrooms, and at one time over 7o%^ or so of the lawns had such mushrooms for years. Until the land scrappers stopped their fertilization due to company cost of the owners of the lawns. Who eventually use kitchel n help or janitorial workers to mow the lawns.
For about an 8 year period. all Boeing lawns south of Tukwilla had blue ringers and baeos. I showed Andy Weil a big patch back in 1979.
Gartz and I found an 80 pound patch of ringers in Eugene, Oregon along the Willamette Riover in 1991.
We have photos but not right now.
And if anyone put such poisons into their gardens to keep pickers out and someone died, they would be the ones responsible for such a crime and they would be the ones prosecuted for doing so.
Here is a good article from Redmond. Even Marymore park had liberty caps for many years. This is about a womans front lawn of blue ringers. One of dozens of news clippings I saved over the years. Many of these stories are very humourous
Called "Mushroomin' Fix on a Front Lawn. One of my favorite news clippings of the 1970s.
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Seattle Post-Intelligencer
Thursday September 30, 1976. Pages 1, 12.
MUSHROOMIN' FIX ON A SURBURBAN LAWN
By S. L. Sanger (P-I Eastside Bureau
Redmond - Mrs X has a little problem with magic mushrooms growing in her yard.
"What's growing in my front yard is not funny. They are loaded with acid," said the 35-year old Redmond mother, who definitely did not want her name or address published.
For two years, people of all ages and descriptions have been coming to her yard to pick and eat the mushrooms, and she doesn't like it. She considers them trespassers.
And she is worried that someone will overdose, or encourage little neighborhood kids to eat them.
No proof has been given that the mushrooms are hallucnogenic, "but the kids sure must think they are," Mrs. X said.
"Kids have been coming to my door stoned. I began to think there must be more to this than meets the eye. I checked around and found out they were eating them to get high," she said.
The mushrooms, short and buttoned-sized, are not easy to see in the short-cropped grass of the manicured lawn. But that has not stopped the mushroom fanciers.
Mrs. X said the mushroom eaters arrive in Cadillacs and sometimes Mercedes Benz's. Some of them are well dressed, some not so well-dress.
"Kids tried to tell me they were picking the mushrooms for a biology class. Them I realized school hadn't even started.
"Every morning I go out and pick the mushrooms, but two hours later we have a new crop. I am a very busy person. I don't have the time to pick mushrooms all day," she said.
Mrs. X said the problem has now spread to other parts of her neighborhood, and the next door neighbors have mushrooms even more potent than hers.
"I tell people to stop picking, but it is the same old garbage. All the time I am telling them to stop, they are picking like mad."
"We can't have a guard dog because we would be liable if it bit someone. We can't poison the mushrooms for the same reason, and we can't have a fence because there is a zoning restriction against fences."
It is too expensive to plow up the yard, and her kids have to play someplace, she said. Mrs. X said the best thing would be a hard freeze, but that probably won't happen until late October
Gerald Yaeger, a Redmond police detective, said some of Mrs. X's mushrooms are at a state laboratory for determination if they are hallucinogenic.
"Sometimes I think kids eat a few mushrooms and drink a fifth of Vodka, then tell other kids what a great high they got from mushrooms," Yaweger said.
The detective said his department has run 20 pounds of mushrooms through the state laboratory and so far has not found any that were hallucinogenic.
A person in possession of hallucinogenic mushrooms could be prosecutes under the controlled substance law, the detective said.
Greg Wright, 26, who operates Eastside mushroom hunts and who describes himself as an expert mushroom eater, said he ate some of Mrs. X's mushrooms.
"My mind focused on one thing at a time, very vivid sensations of sight and sound and thinking it was mostly a pleasant experience, unless I started thinking about something unpleasant," he said.
Dr. Daniel Stuntz, University of Washington biology professor and scientific adviser to the Puget Sound Mycological (mushroom study) Society, had this to say: "If you don't know what you are eating, don't eat it."
mj
If you want more, read the Grape Vine section of the MJ shroom World looking at the Oregon and Washington spread of magic shrooms. Even the front page of the Seattle times has laid claim that Seattle is known for its magic mushrooms. Radio stations use to regularly announce their annual arrival and let people know it was time to pick.
I might as well mention that h this Greg Wright, who sometimes shows up at the Breittenbush Hot Springs Annual Mushroom Festivalhad an article in the Seattle Sunday Times magazine and noted that he had, as yet never found the stellar Psilocybe mushrooms. He had a contact number for people interested in picking edibles and others. I took him to a blue ringer patch which he promised never to9 revisit and I caught him in the patch three times ion one week. I did not like the dude for lying to me. had a few people do that in the past.
Have a shroomy day
mj
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doodoomaster
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Re: Is the Shroomery too popular? [Re: mjshroomer]
#6994291 - 06/01/07 02:05 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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This should be moved to somewhere else?
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LouiseLouise
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 Re: Is the Shroomery too popular? [Re: mjshroomer]
#6994392 - 06/01/07 03:16 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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The detective said his department has run 20 pounds of mushrooms through the state laboratory and so far has not found any that were hallucinogenic.
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tryptonite
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Re: Is the Shroomery too popular? [Re: joekenorer]
#6994576 - 06/01/07 06:20 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
joekenorer said:
As far as anti-shroom chemicals, none of us are herbacide specialists and have no idea if they have something, or can develop something to do the job.
Herbicides kills weeds, pesticides kills bugs and fungicides kill fungi. I think fungicides are sprayed on crops such as wheat fields that are infected with Claviceps (ergot).
see --> http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+fungicide&meta=
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mjshroomer
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Re: Is the Shroomery too popular? [Re: LouiseLouise]
#6994677 - 06/01/07 07:33 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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First Doodoomaster, why should this thread be moved and to where and why do you think so. my response ws pertinent to questions posted above,.
And Louise Louise,
I have many articles in the 1970s and early to mid 1980s, from both Oregon and Washington where State police crime labs admit they could not find anything illegal in the mushrooms.
Remember it took Roger Heim two years of looking and then he gave them to Albeert hofmann whoa lso took two years before he discovered psilocine/psilocybine.
He finally had to eat some to see what it was he was looking for./ A few days laer he had all of his chemical colleagues also eat some, and thuse they spread further from the Wasson/Graves/Leary elitest crowds int he NE of the U.S.A. to Mexico where by 1967, tens of thousands of hppies were markcghed out of Mexico at gun poiny. With fresh haircuts.
A similar Island walk off was held on Koh Samui Island in the later 1980s when Thai military marched off several hundred German tourists for lying naked on beaches, eating shrooms and smoking Ganja. It was big news in Thailand at the time.
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Re: Is the Shroomery too popular? [Re: mjshroomer]
#6994762 - 06/01/07 08:29 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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mjshroomer said:
First Doodoomaster, why should this thread be moved and to where and why do you think so.
mjshroomer
I'd say because this isn't a hunting related thread - perhaps the pub...?
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joekenorer
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Re: Is the Shroomery too popular? [Re: _OttO_]
#6994948 - 06/01/07 10:05 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Its hunting related in the fear of entire fields of shrooms suffering genocide. I have read recently about dairy farmers feeding their cattle certain chemicals (for lack of a better word at the moment) that destroy bacteria and other lifeforms (including fungal spores) in their stomachs in order to preserve the quality of their milk. There must be a demand for this substance, because there are a FUCKING LOT of dairy farms that use it. therefore, there is a potential threat to our fields if things got out of hand. But now as I've been flipping through the site, I realize that there really isn't that much traffic. Most people are new And many old accounts lie dormant from neglect. My original fear has dwindled now to just a curiosity about the theoretical situation of over-popularity. Do you think theres any real danger of Psilocybe spores being illegalized?
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My favorites are weeping willows, which aren't really weeping at all. They're very wispy, witty and will dance in the breeze with you. Nothing like a tree that wants to dance with you. Although it doesn't like its thin limbs being pulled at all, it absolutely LOVES it when you walk through them, letting them gently slide over your face and shoulders. If you're naked, the willow considers it to be sex. It will orgasm on your mind and you will blow dream chunks into outer space. All very fun until your neighbor sees you. -The Joekenorer
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Re: Is the Shroomery too popular? [Re: joekenorer]
#6994966 - 06/01/07 10:13 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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This stuff about chemicals killing bacteria and fungi in the stomachs of cows is just not true. Even more so than most animals, cows are completely dependent on the microflora in their digestive system for survival. Killing the bacteria, fungi and protoza in a cow's stomach would lead to a dead cow in a rapid fashion. Nor is there any truth to farmers adding stuff to feed to prevent mushrooms from growing. This stuff is pure urban myth.
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Re: Is the Shroomery too popular? [Re: mjshroomer]
#6994973 - 06/01/07 10:16 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
mjshroomer said:
they need salt.
Yea betsy died..... We forgot to give her, her salt...
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