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Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD
    #6973405 - 05/27/07 11:47 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

This is very interesting to me because how he wanted to change things in the world. Maybe the LSD gave him courage to stand up against the evil in this country. To bad he was killed, I think the world would be a far better place today. The story goes that Tim Leary and Richard Alpert supplied LSD to one of JFK's close girlfriend and she shared it with him several times.

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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: Rahie]
    #6973414 - 05/27/07 11:50 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Rahie said:
This is very interesting to me because how he wanted to change things in the world.




How was that again?


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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #6973430 - 05/27/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry I am not a history teacher. Maybe you missed that class.

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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: Rahie]
    #6973439 - 05/27/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Well I just think if you're going to make a grandiose statement like that one, you should have a little something to back it up. It's easy to say that JFK had intentions of changing the world, but I'd really like to know how exactly he intended to do that, and also, I'd like to know what leads you to believe he wanted to do that, that made you make this post. Really, I'm just curious.


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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #6973474 - 05/27/07 12:09 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Ok firstly he was the man who said the US should have a space program, to put humans in space and go where no man has before. To discover new things, new science.
He wanted to end the corrupt CIA, which has killed millions of innocent life's.
He also was a man that cared about poor people and the middle class, he was also for equal rights and helped put many minority's into college for a better life.
He was one of the main starters of the Peace Corps which over the years have helped millions of life's.
JFK was a dreamer and had great visions for this country.

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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: Rahie]
    #6973720 - 05/27/07 01:31 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I thought we wanted to put humans into space to compete with the U.S.S.R. in the Cold War, after they launched Sputnik?

The CIA has killed millions? :confused:


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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: Rahie]
    #6973957 - 05/27/07 03:05 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Rahie said:
The story goes that Tim Leary and Richard Alpert supplied LSD to one of JFK's close girlfriend and she shared it with him several times.




Did that close girlfriend happen to be Sammy Giancana's mistress who JFK was supposedly fucking? :lol:


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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: Rahie]
    #6973974 - 05/27/07 03:14 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

LSD only amplifies the base material your working with, I'd give more credit to the actual person.


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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #6973982 - 05/27/07 03:18 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I am not sure about the L.S.D. but the man did paraphrase the Tao Te Ching (THE authoritative text on true leadership and the understanding that is required to be a true leader). He was perhaps the last American President that was actually only concerned with making the world a better place (o.k. AND getting more ass than a toilet seat.)  BTW it's his birthday in a couple days (May 29)

Happy Birthday John,
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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: Rahie]
    #6974130 - 05/27/07 04:03 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Rahie said:
Ok firstly he was the man who said the US should have a space program, to put humans in space and go where no man has before. To discover new things, new science.
He wanted to end the corrupt CIA, which has killed millions of innocent life's.
He also was a man that cared about poor people and the middle class, he was also for equal rights and helped put many minority's into college for a better life.
He was one of the main starters of the Peace Corps which over the years have helped millions of life's.
JFK was a dreamer and had great visions for this country.




Plus, he was dreamy...


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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: Rahie]
    #6974163 - 05/27/07 04:13 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I hear he took so much acid his head exploded.


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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: jewunit]
    #6976298 - 05/28/07 02:51 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

by a acid bullet of course.

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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: jewunit]
    #6976304 - 05/28/07 02:53 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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I hear he took so much acid his head exploded.




:lol:


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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: Rahie]
    #6976347 - 05/28/07 03:18 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

If this thread isn't a joke... then I'll let you know if I find your grip on reality so you can come and reclaim it.


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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: Konnrade]
    #6976995 - 05/28/07 09:29 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

LMAO

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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: Rahie]
    #6977098 - 05/28/07 10:01 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

My mom grew up with those kids, so you know what they probably did.

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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: Konnrade]
    #6977160 - 05/28/07 10:19 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Rahie himself is the joke.

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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: Rahie]
    #6977248 - 05/28/07 10:52 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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NASA's earliest programs involved research into human spaceflight and were conducted under the pressure of the competition between the USA and the USSR (the Space Race) that existed during the Cold War. The Mercury program, initiated in 1958, started NASA down the path of human space exploration with missions designed to discover simply if man could survive in space. Representatives from the U.S. Army (M.L. Raines, LTC, USA), Navy (P.L. Havenstein, CDR, USN) and Air Force (K.G. Lindell, COL, USAF) were selected/requested to provide assistance to the NASA Space Task Group through coordination with the existing U.S. military research and defense contracting infrastructure, and technical assistance resulting from experimental aircraft (and the associated military test pilot pool) development in the 1950s. On May 5, 1961, astronaut Alan B. Shepard Jr. became the first American in space when he piloted Freedom 7 on a 15-minute suborbital flight. John Glenn became the first American to orbit the Earth on 20 February, 1962 during the 5 and a quarter-hour flight of Friendship 7.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA

Kennedy wasn't president until 1961, so obviously he wasn't the man who said we should have a space program or wasn't the first man to say we should put people in space. Both existed before he was president.

Let's not forget he was a ruthless Cold Warrior who authorized the Bay of Pigs fiasco.

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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: Redstorm]
    #6977450 - 05/28/07 11:39 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

KENNEDY'S ASPIRATIONS

Moments after John F. Kennedy was sworn in as president of the United States, he presented a speech that moved most of America. Even today, those that hear a re-play of his inauguration speech feel the same excitement that filled the air on that day in 1961. President Kennedy was an eloquent speaker who appealed to the younger generation of the United States. He wanted to develop a program that would send Americans to the moon first. Walton's book quotes Kennedy, "I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to earth."
ESTABLISHMENT OF NASA

Contrary to President Kennedy's strong opinions, President Eisenhower did not see the necessity to explore space or even land on the moon in order to surpass the Russians. According to Giglio's book on the Kennedy administration, he wrote that Eisenhower "soon labeled a lunar space race as nothing more than an extravagant stunt." Despite his personal feelings, Eisenhower did establish NASA in July 1958 shortly before the Kennedy administration came to Washington.
TWO FACTORS THAT INITIATED THE MOON RACE

The Kennedy administration began to push the race to the moon as a result of two main factors. First, the Soviet Yuri Gagarin's orbital flight that encircled the earth. This took place on April 12, 1961. In his book, Giglio wrote this "accomplishment Khrushchev eagerly exploited as another Communist triumph over a decaying capitalistic system." President Kennedy did not want the world to view the United States as a country lagging behind Communist Russia. This event alerted NASA officials that Russia had the capability to achieve a lunar landing also. If the United States had not prepared at this moment, the Russians might have again had on opportunity to come out ahead.

The other factor that helped initiate the race to the moon was the belief of a missile gap between the United States and Russia. Logsdon wrote that the Soviets had an "advantage in space rocketry" that "underlined fears in the U.S. that a missile gap existed...an issue that Kennedy belabored in the 1960 presidential campaign." Again, the communists seemed to be advancing more that the United States. This lead to a fear of what could happen if the United States did not take the lead in the world. The two great powers were in a struggle to prove which one was the superior. This struggle was not only between technologies, but also between democracy and communism. Giglio reasoned, "There would have been no race to the moon without the cold war; the space program became as much a part of that conflict as Cuba, Berlin, and Laos."
MOON RACE ON ITS WAY

On April 20, 1961, President Kennedy began questioning his staff about the space program. He wanted a plan that would give America a win in space and return pride to its citizens. President Kennedy put Vice President Lyndon Johnson as the head of the space program. According to Logsdon, Kennedy asked Johnson, "Is there any...space program that promises dramatic results in which we could win?" Johnson then had a meeting with Wernher von Braun, a German rocket scientist who helped with the United States space program. Johnson responded to Kennedy's question that a lunar landing seemed the most probable campaign to give the United States a win in space. On May 25, Kennedy submitted the lunar landing program to Congress. Hence the race to the moon was well on its way.

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Re: Has anyone ever heard that JFK might have done LSD [Re: Rahie]
    #6977455 - 05/28/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Going to the moon is not the same as initiating the entire space program. Wtf good did going to the moon get us? Nothing. We haven't even gone back.

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