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Sour Millet After 3 Days Soaking, OK To PC?
    #6912644 - 05/14/07 03:06 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Was soaking some pure millet and forgot about it for a day, on the 3rd day went out to get it and it was smelling pretty funky. I washed it off pretty good and put it into autoclave bags then PC'd for 100 minutes at 15psi, I havent inoculated yet w/ LC but I will be soon once my needles arrive.

I was wondering, wont a PC pretty much rape anything that was in there? I left it going for 100-mins and cool all night, its still smelling pretty odd but I am thinking it just needs to air out a bit as everything that was in there is still dead but just stinky a bit?

grain sitting that long should have really opened up those endospores eh? haha... i dunno.

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Re: Sour Millet After 3 Days Soaking, OK To PC? [Re: MrChopChop]
    #6912653 - 05/14/07 03:12 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

the smell could be baterial contamination and from what i understand is that some bateria can survive through a 15 psi pressre run.


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Re: Sour Millet After 3 Days Soaking, OK To PC? [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #6912714 - 05/14/07 03:36 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

It just depends on a few different factors. The millet is so cheap you could always just start over, but there is that lost time. Just go with it since it's already done, but keep them seperate from other jars. Start another batch just in case if your worried.

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Re: Sour Millet After 3 Days Soaking, OK To PC? [Re: Jrsxt]
    #6912721 - 05/14/07 03:38 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

from what i have done everytime it smells funky like that it fails but this is just personal experience and all my innoculations are done from a glovebox


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Re: Sour Millet After 3 Days Soaking, OK To PC? [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #6912840 - 05/14/07 06:16 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

i just did some last night that smelled of such funk.

i soaked for 48 hrs. I usually don't do that, but tried it this time and i am not sure myself.

Guess we'll find out... good luck to ya


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Re: Sour Millet After 3 Days Soaking, OK To PC? [Re: Oatman2000]
    #6913207 - 05/14/07 09:09 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

That sour smell is fermentation.  From what I understand, fermented seed is still ok to use, but that was also only fermented seed that had soaked for about 20 hrs.  What you may want to do is make some new "back up" jars and inoculate half as many of each kind.  That way if the sour ones fail you'll still get at least half as many shrooms.

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Re: Sour Millet After 3 Days Soaking, OK To PC? [Re: Greens21]
    #6913391 - 05/14/07 10:02 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

It can be used, but should be used right away. You should't soak/sterilize until you have your inoculant in hand.
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Re: Sour Millet After 3 Days Soaking, OK To PC? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6913416 - 05/14/07 10:07 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

and airing it out again will only negate the whole point of sterilizing in the first place.

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Re: Sour Millet After 3 Days Soaking, OK To PC? [Re: djaxx06]
    #6913429 - 05/14/07 10:10 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

My rye grain starts to smell after 48 hours.... but i havent had a problem with any contamination

and i mean bad... like i was sniffing an asshole


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Re: Sour Millet After 3 Days Soaking, OK To PC? [Re: spectrem12]
    #6914363 - 05/14/07 01:41 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

this was def. smellig of a asshole  lolol like seriously.  my keyoard is fucked from water i spilled while stoed last ight :evildog:

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Re: Sour Millet After 3 Days Soaking, OK To PC? [Re: MrChopChop]
    #6914373 - 05/14/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

i think your still "stoed" haha

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Re: Sour Millet After 3 Days Soaking, OK To PC? [Re: blood4blood]
    #6914391 - 05/14/07 01:49 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

hahahahaha!!!


whatchoo cheifin on y0?

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Re: Sour Millet After 3 Days Soaking, OK To PC? [Re: DiabloSmurf]
    #6947568 - 05/21/07 02:38 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

1 Bag totally gone. Sour Rot. Fucking nasty. Tried to do a g2g in the GB and ended up w/ a puddle in the bottom. Oh well, the rest are getting owned and tossed too I suppose.

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