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OfflineUncleLuke
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Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz.
    #6849436 - 04/29/07 01:05 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Seems like I heard that MG is the trippiest, and HBWR is more of a body high/sedated feeling. The only thing I've really heard about Ololiuqui is that it's a lot like HBWR only it constricts your pupils instead of dialating them for some reason.

Which of these seeds would you prefer over the others and why?


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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: UncleLuke]
    #6849472 - 04/29/07 01:20 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I've had some ololiuqui seeds lying around for quite a while. Honestly, I have a really hard time finding a definite dosage amount on these things. I would stick with HBWR, because the documentation on ololiqui is very sparse and vague. If anyone can help me here, please do...

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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: funknsoul]
    #6849479 - 04/29/07 01:25 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

HBWR can be more trippy youll be suprised but any who. if you do a Acid base extraction then the differance is even still there but theres deffinatly less of one. i say just try em all over time. i like Ololiqui combined with ayahuasca the best better then HBWR or MG with it, Ololiqui gives more of a spacey vibe.


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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: thedudenj]
    #6849552 - 04/29/07 01:48 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

funknsoul, I have a huge pack of Ololiuqui seeds right here in front of me. The other day I ate 18 of them and had no effects at all. Do you think I should try eating more, or are they bunk?


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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: UncleLuke]
    #6849571 - 04/29/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

thats shitty i found like 20 to give good effects. do you have any rue or caapi?

or acid base em


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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: UncleLuke]
    #6849639 - 04/29/07 02:16 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

It seems that you're taking seeds that are containing LSA quite often lately. Just thought I'll let you know.
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Most lysergic acid alkaloids are vasoconstricting, and the
medieval disease St. Anthony's Fire or ergotism, was the
result of eating high doses of ergotamine in bread made from
infected grain. At first tingling in the extremities, and
finally gangrene plus mental disorders was the result. Taking
MG seeds every couple of days just begins to approach the dose
level where first symptoms are possible. Taking them once a
month should entail no risk whatsoever.




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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: Individual]
    #6849695 - 04/29/07 02:43 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I've been taking it once or twice a week at most.


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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: UncleLuke]
    #6849697 - 04/29/07 02:43 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

actually just once a week because half the time they are bunk.


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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: UncleLuke]
    #6849714 - 04/29/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

It's just tolerance, I guess


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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: Individual]
    #6849728 - 04/29/07 02:58 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

nah it's not tolerance, cause when I do have a tolerance, I still feel 'something' even if i don't trip.


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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: UncleLuke]
    #6849746 - 04/29/07 03:03 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Does the active and non-active seeds come from the same or different patch?


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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: Individual]
    #6849758 - 04/29/07 03:06 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

The only active seeds I've ever gotten were Heavely Blue MG seeds from Walmart (Burpee brand). They always make me throw up, but after that I feel great and trip hard.


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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: UncleLuke]
    #6849814 - 04/29/07 03:19 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

wholey shit man acid base extract em. no throwing up no nausea and it melts in your mouth


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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: thedudenj]
    #6849815 - 04/29/07 03:20 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

how difficult is it?


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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: UncleLuke]
    #6849828 - 04/29/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

So why don't you stick to a vendor you know sells good seeds. If you take one type of seeds constantly, eventually you'll invent your own best way to ingest them with minimal negative effects. You'll know what to wait and with some reasonable thinking that allows you prevent certain effects.

Seedmaterial can be quite rough on empty stomach. My advice for puking would be to TAKE your last average meal about 1.5 hours before ingesting the seeds. That makes your digestion process to be already active when the seeds hit your system. It'll make them digest faster and not being so rough on your stomach. Drinking a lot of water could be a helper too. Last time I took 500 Flying soucer MG seeds that way and almost didn't feel any stomach discomforts. Just a slight heavy feeling.


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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: UncleLuke]
    #6849870 - 04/29/07 03:34 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

not at all. get 2 mason jars from hardwear store.gallon of muratic acid from pool store or hardware or online scince store. get lye NaOH aka crystal drain cleaner or online science store. Naphtha from hardwear store. and ph paper or meter or testing kit.

soak crushed seeds in acid for a day PH 2 (this draws LSA into acid and bad stuff in seeds)
strain seed out
add 1/10th naphtha to solution shake (naptha pulls out bad stuff)
let seperate collect acid
add lye water solution to blance ph to about 9-11 (this makes the LSA turn into a salt)
and 1/10th naptha make sure its warm( in salt form now naptha being a non polar solvent can collect the free LSA)
sperate collect naptha
evaporate in pie pan with a fan
pure lsa crystals they should be brown like erowid picture
place in mouth and couple min bam
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/extraction_guide1/dmt_extraction_guide1.shtml


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: thedudenj]
    #6850030 - 04/29/07 04:12 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

where do you get lye from?


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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: UncleLuke]
    #6850370 - 04/29/07 05:50 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

read pm


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Re: Someone compare the effects of MG, HBWR, and Ololiuqui seeds for me plz. [Re: thedudenj]
    #6850960 - 04/29/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

if yer gonna go the seed route, go morning glory, heavenley blue variety.. alot of people will vomit or so i hear, i havent puked on mg seeds to date, and ive taken 6 + 14.6 + 25.5 grams all in 24 hours, not even ground up, just washed and chewed as seed.. its a pain in the ass but i think that does something to alter the nausea? or maybe its just me and my iron stomach :tongue: lol.. theyre definently nothin to fuck around with tho! as mckenna said "this is not something where you'd say 'oh boy, i wish we had the real thing', this IS the real thing" i also find that its best enjoyed outdoors.. for me at least, its got that earthy feel to it :smile:

edit: also, at most walmarts they carry a certain brand.. slips my mind right now as to the brand name.. i think its someones last name, its definently not burpee.. but the packages are HUGE.. it even says on there, "more seed than 4 average packetts" theyre like 4.8 grams i believe.. and over here, 97 cents a pack :laugh: cant beat it.. buy like five packs, down em, and be prepared to stare at clouds for five hours


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