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avelvetbeer
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high dosages - dangers?
#6748454 - 04/04/07 09:33 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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hi, i was wondering what the physical, mental, psychological dangers of taking higher doses of shrooms/acid (5-8 g's, or over 3 hits) are.
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Life_of_a_Cell

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Re: high dosages - dangers? *DELETED* [Re: avelvetbeer]
#6748461 - 04/04/07 09:37 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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yageman
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Mental is all you have to worry about.
Know your doses, THEN dose high, is the only good advise.
You should know what you are putting your mind through before taking large doses.
They can ruin your life for some time, they can give you a new birth, and they can make you totally insane for better or worse.
Variations of all three are not too uncommon.
Just know what you are doing to your head.
SO in other words, you be the judge. Thats the only way to do it.
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riby
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Re: high dosages - dangers? [Re: yageman]
#6748518 - 04/04/07 09:57 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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for those who ask questions about what happens at high doses, are probably those who should be taking lower doses.
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MushroomTrip
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Re: high dosages - dangers? [Re: riby]
#6748539 - 04/04/07 10:05 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
riby said: for those who ask questions about what happens at high doses, are probably those who should be taking lower doses.
Very good point
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Re: high dosages - dangers? [Re: avelvetbeer]
#6748565 - 04/04/07 10:16 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hopefully you won't get the urge to wander around your town naked, or something like that. Get a sitter if you're going to do high doses of shrooms.
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budmanman
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Re: high dosages - dangers? [Re: Le_Canard]
#6748658 - 04/04/07 10:47 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just tried to explain that to my friend who just ate 3.5 grams of pan cyan hawaii of mine with a friend who is on 1 gram.
Is my friend gonna like die?
He claims to have talken half ounces in the past.
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Re: high dosages - dangers? [Re: budmanman]
#6749400 - 04/05/07 04:01 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Half ounces o.o 14-15 grams is a little higher than i think my mind would like to experience =/
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Arp
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Re: high dosages - dangers? [Re: riby]
#6749431 - 04/05/07 04:32 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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When in doubt double the dose
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Re: high dosages - dangers? [Re: Arp]
#6749539 - 04/05/07 06:39 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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3.5 ya he will be fine but which is it shrooms? or acid? that you had a question about? If your confused about the difference there thats another problem. There not the same. Anyways wish your friend luck! Have fun!
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dedjam
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Re: high dosages - dangers? [Re: budmanman]
#6749558 - 04/05/07 07:04 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
budmanman said: I just tried to explain that to my friend who just ate 3.5 grams of pan cyan hawaii of mine with a friend who is on 1 gram.
Is my friend gonna like die?
He claims to have talken half ounces in the past.
Unless he does something stupid, the mushrooms will not kill him alone. People have ate much higher doses than that. To my knowledge, no one has ever died from an OD on mushrooms, and there has been only 1 death on extracted psilocybin...
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budmanman
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Re: high dosages - dangers? [Re: dedjam]
#6750608 - 04/05/07 01:02 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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surprisingly he was coherent when he called to thank me for getting shrooms strong enough to get him trippen lol, wtf i guess its true that he does take half ounces of cubes. What a crazy mother
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Re: high dosages - dangers? [Re: budmanman]
#6750690 - 04/05/07 01:27 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have taken 12 grams (almost a half-ounce) of mushrooms...there are also kinds I have taken 3-4 grams of and tripped harde
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Asante
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Re: high dosages - dangers? [Re: avelvetbeer]
#6750890 - 04/05/07 02:31 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Physical dangers: susceptible people can get a heart attack or severe convulsions and may die, which is more likely on the higher doses than the lower ones. Status epilepticus, a rapid succession of seizures, may leave the tripper incapacitated by brain damage. Other than the acute risk to drop dead or become severely braindamaged during the trip the risks are slight.
Sources? Read LSD Psychotherapy by Dr Stanislav Grof. Certain people with cardiovascular disease, epilepsy or other seizure-proneness may be in serious danger when taking regular or larger doses of LSD or other psychedelics.
As for psychological dangers: a trip is a stressful episode, so an extra stressful trip on the wrong time may activate a latent depressive or psychotic episode. In addition to that, in resisting the flow of an unpleasant high dose trip you may rip your psyche apart - causing post-traumatic stress disorder, anxiety or mood disorders, or other conditions directly or indirectly caused by traumatic events. People are known to commit suicide during a trip to try escape it, or because they reach conclusions about their life, or life in general, that are incompatible with them holding onto this life any longer. In addition to that people have become alienated from concensus reality and relationships because of experiences or insights gained during trips. You may also find that after the trip the hallucination and emotional unstability do not go away for days, weeks, months or years on end.
But, other than the acute risk of death, suicide, brain damage, severe mental illness, permafry and alienation from the human race, it is all perfectly safe and harmless because it has a really high LD50 on some chart on Erowid.
I'm sick and tired about people harping how safe it all is. It's not. Tripping, and especially on higher doses, carries very real risks. If you are not willing to take substantial risks, then do not trip, and certainly not on high doses.
Choose the place, date and dose of your trips well. Come prepared. Do it in a place where you have privacy, with friends or loved ones you can trust. Take time to prepare, to trip and to debrief from the trip. Do not drive after a trip and before sleeping - hold sleepovers instead. Offer guidance to trippers in need. Have benzodiazepines present on the site of the trip to deal with emergencies. Stay hydrated and eat something when you need it.
In many cases "it's harmless" means "I can be completely irresponsible and not care for shit". That's not what psychedelics are about. For a tripper there is much to gain, because much can be lost as well.
Be safe. Learn. Grow. Enjoy
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Re: high dosages - dangers? [Re: Asante]
#6751027 - 04/05/07 03:06 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Excellent post WS. for you.
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