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InvisibleIcelander
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Trust
    #6747565 - 04/04/07 06:14 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

More from Shambhala.:tongue2: This is my idea of surrender to life. Letting it lead you where you need to be.

"You want to look into every situation and examine it, so that you won't be fooling yourself by relying on belief alone. Instead, you want to make a personal discovery of reality, through your own intelligence and ability. The sense of trust is that, when you apply your inquisitiveness, when you look into a situation, you know that you will get a definite response. If you take steps to accomplish something, that action will have a result-either failure or success. When you shoot your arrow, either it will hit the target or it will miss. Trust is knowing that there will be a message.

When you trust in those messages, the reflections of the phenomenal world, the world begins to seem like a bank, or reservoir of richness.  You feel like you are living in a rich world, one that never runs out of messages. A problem arises only if you try to manipulate a situation to your advantage or ignore it.

Ordinarily, trusting in your world means that you expect to be taken care of or to be saved. You think that the world will give you what you want-or at least what you expect. But as a warrior you are willing to take a chance; you are willing to expose yourself to the phenomenal world, and you trust that it will give you a message, either of success or failure. Those messages are regarded neither as punishment nor as congratulation. You trust not in success, but in reality. But whatever the result that comes from your action, that result is not an end in itself. You can always go beyond the result; it is the seed for a further journey.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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InvisibleDiploidM
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Re: Trust [Re: Icelander]
    #6747874 - 04/04/07 07:27 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Shambhala's sounds like a way cool place. I wanna go there, but I can't seem to get directions there from Google Maps.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Trust [Re: Icelander]
    #6748073 - 04/04/07 08:11 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Knowing that there will be a message? (from whom or what?) Or fabricating a message? And we have seen the devastation that results from that!


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OfflineMushroomTrip
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Re: Trust [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #6748083 - 04/04/07 08:13 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

There are no "messiahs" on that Path


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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InvisibleVeritas
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Re: Trust [Re: Icelander]
    #6748091 - 04/04/07 08:16 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Instead, you want to make a personal discovery of reality, through your own intelligence and ability. The sense of trust is that, when you apply your inquisitiveness, when you look into a situation, you know that you will get a definite response. If you take steps to accomplish something, that action will have a result-either failure or success. When you shoot your arrow, either it will hit the target or it will miss.




This sounds so familiar...

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4499407#4499407

:wink:

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Re: Trust [Re: Veritas]
    #6849985 - 04/29/07 04:03 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

one of the honeyiest threads i've seen (sweet and sticky)
veritas and icelander compliment eachother and are quite yummy

hear ye here ye this notion in motion
is there even such thing as success and failure?
this moment seems always all-ways

swimming deep
swimming deeper
we're always in the water


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Re: Trust [Re: dream_alchemy]
    #6850565 - 04/29/07 06:46 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

i have a problem with surrender
i also think that exposed desire in public is unbecoming.
& i have a huge intolerance of shambala and trungpa for marketing himself as a product like disney so successfully
but right now I am working on driving
soon I will be better.
already I killed nobody today
and increased peace on local roadways.


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InvisibleIcelander
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Re: Trust [Re: redgreenvines]
    #6850601 - 04/29/07 06:57 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Who doesn't have a problem with surrender?:grin:

Do you have a problem with him marketing himself or being successful. I couldn't tell.:D


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Trust [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #6850929 - 04/29/07 08:36 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

What is described is the surrendering to what is at this moment. The messages are the feedback you get from the universe around you. This was not a description of a supernatural process, but just the living of ones life in harmony with the here and now.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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