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Mexican 'Ice' Replaces Home-Cooked Meth in U.S.
    #6744435 - 04/03/07 10:39 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

April 4, 2007 - NPR
Mexican 'Ice' Replaces Home-Cooked Meth in U.S.

The nation's war on drugs has at least one successful battle: State and federal laws limiting access to cold medicines containing ephedrine and pseudoephedrine have dramatically curtailed small "mom and pop" meth labs.

Thousands of these toxic and explosive labs flourished in the nation's interior, especially in rural areas in the South, Midwest and West. From 1998 to 2003, more than 38,000 small meth labs were discovered in rural areas — more than those found in cities and suburbs combined. More than 10,000 labs were seized in 2003 alone, the peak year for small labs. They were typically set up in bathrooms, kitchens, motel rooms, cars and abandoned buildings.

But in 2004, states began restricting purchases of ephedrine and pseudoephedrine, key ingredients in some meth recipes. Congress responded a year later with a federal law. The impact on meth labs was swift and dramatic, especially in the Midwest, where meth makers were especially prolific.

Meth lab seizures are down 55 percent in Missouri, 73 percent in Iowa and Kansas and 88 percent in Nebraska, according to the Office of National Drug Control Policy. Labs persist in places where meth cooks "smurf" for ephedrine and pseudoephedrine — a process that involves "surfing" from store to store, buying the typical limit of two packages of medicine, and building up a small supply.

Police in Aurora, Mo., a town of 8,000 on the edge of the Ozarks, used to find a meth lab a month.

"Meth is [the] No. 1 problem we have with drugs and narcotics," said Rick Batson, Aurora's police chief. "It's the drug of choice in this part of the country. Over the last eight or nine years, it's been a severe problem."

Now Aurora police find meth labs an average of once year.

"So, we don't have that meth problem," Batson says, "but what we have now is something called 'ice.'"

The Growth of Mexican 'Ice' Meth

"Ice" is a crystallized form of meth also known as crystal. It is produced in relatively larger quantities in so-called "superlabs." Most are based in Mexico; they ship drugs to the United States by UPS, FEDEX and Greyhound bus, as well as in cars and trucks with secret compartments. For more than a year, a two-story Victorian home in Aurora, one of the nicest in the neighborhood, was at the receiving end of one trafficking route.

"This individual had the direct contact in Mexico," Batson noted. "[He] brought the crystal meth from Mexico to this location and dispersed it from here."

The Mexican dealer in Aurora distributed 100 pounds throughout southwest Missouri. That's as much as 180,000 doses, with a street value of as much as $4.5 million.

Southwest Missouri and northwest Arkansas are home to poultry farms and processing plants that hire Mexican workers.

"The Hispanic population in town here is a hardworking bunch of people," Batson said. But "there are those in the group who go in the other direction. They have access to [meth] in Mexico, so they take advantage of that."

A Sophisticated Drug Network

Yolanda Lorge is more specific about who is and isn't involved in the meth trade. Lorge has been in southwest Missouri for 30 years and is president of Grupo Latinoamericano, an advocacy group for Latin American immigrants.

"These are people with no connections other than immediate family," she says of most of the Latino immigrants in the region. "They don't have the language and [other] skills to do this kind of business. It doesn't seem logical that drug lords would rely on these types of immigrants."

But there are some immigrants with "criminal minds," Lorge added. "They feel that this is the place to be if they want to get rich, because Americans really like their drugs. There is a much bigger profit in drugs than in trying to sell burritos or tacos. So if they have that criminal mentality, this is the place to be."

Dave Barton is Midwest director for the federal government's High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area, based in Kansas City.

The [Mexican meth] groups are very sophisticated," he says. "They generate huge amounts of profits and money. They have sophisticated communication links. They have family ties. And they are very, very organized in the way they manufacture and move their product."

That product filled the gap in meth supply when "mom and pop" labs began to diminish. It is also feeding "exploding meth populations" in Illinois, Indiana, Ohio and Kentucky, according to Barton.

More Potential for Violence

The shift from meth made in "mom and pop" labs to crystal or ice imported from Mexico has one major benefit for police, according to Mike McDonald, a drug-control detective in Jasper County, Mo.

"The threat of meth labs blowing up… has gone down," Jasper explained. Also reduced are threats "of long-term exposure to guys like me, who break the meth labs down, [and] to kids being exposed because mom and dad's cooking [meth] in the house."

Police also have more time to focus on trafficking. McDonald says it takes him more than six hours to handle incidents involving meth labs, due to the presence of toxic and explosive chemicals. Arresting and processing users and dealers takes as little as two hours.

But McDonald warns that there's more money in the Mexican meth trade, along with organized cartels. Both indicate more potential for violence.

"They can afford surveillance systems. They can afford body armor. They can afford weapons. And we're going to see more and more of that now," McDonald says.

There are signs already of a more violent trade, according to one old "mom and pop" meth maker wistful for the old days. He's helping police now, so authorities asked NPR not to use his name.

"If you came to me and got an eight ball of dope and didn't pay me, that's cool," the former meth producer said. "You knew you could never come back and get anything from me ever again. Now, if you get $50 worth of dope on credit and don't pay, they're subject to go… burn your car, or hurt you or your mom or your family. That's the difference."

Faster, Stronger Addiction

There's one other key difference. Addicts and treatment counselors say Mexican meth, when smoked in its purer and more potent forms, leads to quicker and deeper addiction. They say it's an addiction that is tougher to kick.

The National Institute on Drug Abuse agrees. In fact, meth addiction and meth-related drug treatment are on the rise, according to the National Drug Intelligence Center. And that increase coincides with the increased trafficking in Mexican meth.

"It's out there. It's here to stay," said T.J. Stevens of southwest Missouri's Comet Drug Task Force. "It's going to take some act of God to make it change."

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Re: Mexican 'Ice' Replaces Home-Cooked Meth in U.S. [Re: veggie]
    #6744579 - 04/03/07 11:26 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Go Mexicans!  :congrats:


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Re: Mexican 'Ice' Replaces Home-Cooked Meth in U.S. [Re: chemiKalz]
    #6744699 - 04/04/07 12:00 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Nothing worth saving about home-cooked meth. Good riddance.

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Re: Mexican 'Ice' Replaces Home-Cooked Meth in U.S. [Re: Cabinet_Sanchez]
    #6745153 - 04/04/07 04:16 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

> Nothing worth saving about home-cooked meth. Good riddance.

Depends upon your home... I used to have a (science) lab in my home that was better than most professional labs.  Although I never mixed up meth, had I decided to do so, it would have not been a problem from a quality or safety standpoint.    The issue isn't home cooked meth, but rather unqualified 'cooks'.

> Mexican 'Ice' Replaces Home-Cooked Meth in U.S.

They have been saying this since at least 1996... :rolleyes:

The #1 meth myth: "We are the meth producing capital of the world"
The #2 meth myth: "All our meth comes from Mexico"


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Re: Mexican 'Ice' Replaces Home-Cooked Meth in U.S. [Re: Seuss]
    #6745376 - 04/04/07 07:45 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Just a way to bring more hate against mexico...

Even as a person that hates meth, I see this as better than people getting shit made by rednecks in a trailor.

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Re: Mexican 'Ice' Replaces Home-Cooked Meth in U.S. [Re: dedjam]
    #6745386 - 04/04/07 07:53 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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gopenguins said:
Just a way to bring more hate against mexico...

Even as a person that hates meth, I see this as better than people getting shit made by rednecks in a trailor.




you stupid fuck... you're dissing rednecks and you cant spell "trailer" ..... just cuz they talk funny doesnt mean rednecks are idiots

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Re: Mexican 'Ice' Replaces Home-Cooked Meth in U.S. [Re: boogertool]
    #6745515 - 04/04/07 09:06 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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you stupid fuck... you're dissing rednecks and you cant spell "trailer" ..... just cuz they talk funny doesnt mean rednecks are idiots




Sorry, I havent lived on your level, forgive me for spelling your household wrong. I live in an area where "Rednecks" are everywhere, and I actually married one of them :smile:. Of course, she isnt your typical meth-making redneck, she is one of those southern girls that made something of herself and went to law school.

I think the only real idiot here is you actually

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Re: Mexican 'Ice' Replaces Home-Cooked Meth in U.S. [Re: dedjam]
    #6745555 - 04/04/07 09:20 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

> I think the only real idiot here is you actually

... and me.  I have made some really idiotic posts from time to time... :smile:


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Re: Mexican 'Ice' Replaces Home-Cooked Meth in U.S. [Re: Seuss]
    #6745635 - 04/04/07 09:51 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

dam mexicans first they take our jobs that nobody wants and now they take our meth. Its juss a matter of time till they take over the world


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Re: Mexican 'Ice' Replaces Home-Cooked Meth in U.S. [Re: FoURtWeNTy420] * 2
    #6747096 - 04/04/07 03:54 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I blame it on the US for outsourcing even more jobs to foreign countries.


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Re: Mexican 'Ice' Replaces Home-Cooked Meth in U.S. [Re: chemiKalz] * 2
    #17742019 - 02/04/13 01:56 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

One thing is for certain. The so called mexican meth of today pales in comparison to the clean pharmaceuticals of the past and also home brewed. The government has done nothing but strengthen the cartels and infused them with a huge new way to make billions of dollars. Dont they under stan that all the propoganda in the world is not going to make Americas appetite for stimulants go away? In the old days it was no big deal because EVERYONE was using it! Thats right! Cops to dishwashers were using speed of some kind. Also, IT WAS CHEAP! I could get a jar of 1000 Bennie's for 100 dollars. Now you pay alot and purity is maybe 30 percent. The rest of what you are smoking can be anything from hydro dextrose to Epsom salts.

By simply allowing drug companies to manufacture and widely distribute meth you take a huge bite out of the cartels and the drug becomes much safer as a standard dose no mystery ingredients. Stop trying to tell me what is good or not good for me when those making policy should look in the mirror as they slop down booze and kill themselves with poor diet and lack of exercise. But that is their choice!let me and others make our own.

The government will never (win) this kind of war against the people and will only spread misery and waste billions. When a multitude ignores the law that law becomes ineffective (common sense) They have already arrested 2million, no room left to lock up another two million like they would Lille to. I have not taken life liberty or property so I have broken no law. Remove the power mad megalomaniac politicians and depose their corporate masters and let people live as they want and concentrate on your neglected duties such as managing our prosperity.

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