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Offlinejonathanseagull
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Do you think God experiences existential anxiety?
    #6735728 - 04/01/07 06:22 PM (17 years, 13 hours ago)

I realize to even attribute thinking or experiencing anxiety to God is an anthropomorphic type of thing to do, and is really out of the question anyway, but I simply am talking in a relative manner. Do you think God, in it's own way, experiences some form of existential anxiety?

"How am I here, why am I here, what is my reality?", etc. Even the absolute unmanifest might have these questions. I realize a "when did I first start existing" question might not be applicable in a realm where time does not exist. But you know what I'm getting at. I'm just wondering and thinking out loud. What do you guys think?


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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #6735852 - 04/01/07 07:08 PM (17 years, 12 hours ago)

I think that everyone is working toward a greater good whether we want it to or not. I believe that everyone is connected to one main source which is God; and all of our(human beings) experiences strengthen and teach that source(God). I think he is curious and wants to see everything from as many points of view as possible and he feels our pain because we are/of him.

So in a way I think He is trying to better understand everything else by creating us.
Maybe is just realized It was and realized the power of creative energy and we are just an outcome of It trying to figure itself out to the fullest extent. We're one of It's many dreams perhaps?


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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: DR. PRIME]
    #6735884 - 04/01/07 07:19 PM (17 years, 12 hours ago)

Perhaps^

When I typed this, I wasn't considering a pantheistic idea of God, because then it would definitely experience existential angst, because I and many others do. I really was considering an external being. But I don't guess I can really confine it like that. I agree, my personal idea of God would experience anxiety because we do, but my idea of God is more panentheistic... so what about the external part?


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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: DR. PRIME]
    #6735888 - 04/01/07 07:20 PM (17 years, 12 hours ago)

really interesting question

I would venture to say no, given that technically, it IS ultimate reality.

Therefore, it seems illogical for reality to question its own reality. Reality's reality?

Plus, as you mentioned, I think our questioning arises from the fact that we know we haven't always existed, and know we will not exist forever --- notions rooted in the conception of time. Time is meaningless in its realm.

Though I feel your intuition that it seems any conscious and knowing being must be in possession of that question and have the ability to consider it.


btw, I'm a strong agnostic, and strongly doubt the existence of god. just an interesting question to ponder regardless

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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: Continuum]
    #6735945 - 04/01/07 07:37 PM (17 years, 12 hours ago)

I don't think of God as having human emotions...that seems strange to me.

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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #6736354 - 04/01/07 09:21 PM (17 years, 10 hours ago)

i see anxiety as separation from god. when i am anxious god does not flow all through me, i need to meditate and clear the blockage. and what is your definition of "god" anyway? it is only a concept in your mind, to really know god is to experience everything as energy, and to realize the higher frequencies of vibration we can tune ourselves into. raising ourselves in consciousness is being able to understand god... not as a concept or "other" with human qualities, but as something we are a part of and constantly evolving with.

like the above poster stated, it is far fetched to say that this "god", so uncomprehensible by the mind could experience mere human feelings.


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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #6736413 - 04/01/07 09:40 PM (17 years, 10 hours ago)

I am God, so to answer your question, yes, I'm often plagued with existential anxiety.

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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: it stars saddam]
    #6736602 - 04/01/07 10:50 PM (17 years, 9 hours ago)

^^ I'd say your wearing a devil mask, which is giving you feelings of anxiety. Take off the mask, realize emptiness and space, feel bliss and god.


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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #6736611 - 04/01/07 10:53 PM (17 years, 9 hours ago)

Silly. God is not an Old Bearded Guy in the Sky. You should get some sleep.

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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #6736666 - 04/01/07 11:17 PM (17 years, 8 hours ago)

I mean if the tip of the tree has the job of steering the ship, then white knuckle driving seems possible. Especially with these monkeys spinning like a top. But hey, thats how we like it. Organized CHAOS. Keeps the computer in tip top. Bob and weave, stick and move.


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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: backfromthedead]
    #6736669 - 04/01/07 11:18 PM (17 years, 8 hours ago)

Word salad?

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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #6736679 - 04/01/07 11:23 PM (17 years, 8 hours ago)

Tends to move it in spheres as opposed to long drawn out 'paths'. 2000 years?? Damn, thats heavy. How many pages was that book?? Exactly.


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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: backfromthedead]
    #6736866 - 04/02/07 12:19 AM (17 years, 7 hours ago)

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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #6737361 - 04/02/07 07:50 AM (17 years, 14 minutes ago)

Or 666, whatever works.


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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #6737791 - 04/02/07 10:58 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

MarkostheGnostic said:
Silly. God is not an Old Bearded Guy in the Sky. You should get some sleep.




Everybody is acting like they didn't read the very first sentence I typed.


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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #6737904 - 04/02/07 11:35 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

jonathanseagull said:
I realize to even attribute thinking or experiencing anxiety to God is an anthropomorphic type of thing to do, and is really out of the question anyway, but I simply am talking in a relative manner.  Do you think God, in it's own way, experiences some form of existential anxiety?


If indeed God experiences some form of existential anxiety, it is quite likely that We are It.  :tongue:


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I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
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to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #6738031 - 04/02/07 12:22 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

god just flows :salmon:

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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #6738873 - 04/02/07 04:13 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Hey, the only faculty that I have that comes close to apprehending God is my Intuition. Thinking, Feeling and Sensing don't do it. I sometimes think of myself like Patty Duke's portrayal of Helen Keller before she realized the connection between Anne Sullivan's hand-pressing language and objects in the enviornment - dead, dumb and blind. Once in a while, a synchronicity, howsoever minor, awakens me to the Intuition that God interfaces, or can interface with us in personal ways like providing something, howsoever small, just when one needs it. This sort of thing has happened to me a few times this week, and twice, my own anxiety was allayed. If anything, God alleviates anxiety in my human beinghood. I cannot Know anything of God outside of the effects that I attribute to a 'special' or superabundance of Presence beyond the Omniscience. Anything 'in' or 'of' God would be Eternal in my theoretical understanding, and Eternal Anxiety sounds like Hell to me.


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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #6738924 - 04/02/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

God alleviates anxiety

This supports my ideas on the usefulness of the idea of God.:thumbup:


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Re: Do you think God experiences existential anxiety? [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #6739218 - 04/02/07 05:27 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

The Big Bang was God going insane when he realized there was no one else here. Wrote a sci-fi story to this effect when I was nine.


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