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Myohmy
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3 strains 1 casing?
#6710863 - 03/25/07 08:22 PM (17 years, 8 days ago) |
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Ok, lets say one was to Colonize 3 quart jars, each with a different strain. And put them all into the same casing. Would that work>??
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Re: 3 strains 1 casing? [Re: Myohmy]
#6710869 - 03/25/07 08:23 PM (17 years, 8 days ago) |
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What do you mean by "work".
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Re: 3 strains 1 casing? [Re: Myohmy]
#6710871 - 03/25/07 08:23 PM (17 years, 8 days ago) |
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Yes it would fruit. Would you have created some new super hybrid.....no. This question gets asked a lot. Its in the faq.
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Myohmy
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Re: 3 strains 1 casing? [Re: lind2388]
#6710872 - 03/25/07 08:24 PM (17 years, 8 days ago) |
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Well, would the casing fruit?
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Re: 3 strains 1 casing? [Re: Myohmy]
#6710874 - 03/25/07 08:25 PM (17 years, 8 days ago) |
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As I understand it, you'd have three different strains competing for resources. It's a little more complicated, with addendums and exceptions, but that's how I've always heard it. I'd say spawn and case them separately.
Edited by ozzyozzyozzy (03/25/07 08:25 PM)
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Myohmy
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Re: 3 strains 1 casing? [Re: Myohmy]
#6710875 - 03/25/07 08:25 PM (17 years, 8 days ago) |
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sweet, thats all i wanted to know. is if someone did that, that it would fruit.
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Re: 3 strains 1 casing? [Re: atomic1]
#6710878 - 03/25/07 08:25 PM (17 years, 8 days ago) |
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Why would you want to. What are you expecting?
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Re: 3 strains 1 casing? [Re: Myohmy]
#6710879 - 03/25/07 08:26 PM (17 years, 8 days ago) |
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If they are all cubensis then yes it will fruit.
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Re: 3 strains 1 casing? [Re: Myohmy]
#6711041 - 03/25/07 09:16 PM (17 years, 8 days ago) |
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p. cubensis is p. cubensis.
Every p. cubensis strain you see here "ecuador, mazatapec, tasmania, south american, etc..." are the same thing.... p. cubensis, just from a different region of the world. I am pretty sure they are not officially considered as a subspecies in the scientific community.
since they are the same species, it is like having two people from different ends of the earth living in the same city. it works.
but don't hold me to that because i have never personally done it. it logically makes sense though, a species is a species.
now, fruiting p. cubensis and pan. cyan together in the same casing.... that would be really mindblowing to see....
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Re: 3 strains 1 casing? [Re: Edge]
#6711188 - 03/25/07 09:52 PM (17 years, 8 days ago) |
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Yes you can possibly make some fruit. But near as much as one strain alone in the substrate- never.
They will fight over everything in the substrate- they wont merge as one colony. It just stresses out everyone in there to the point of survival mode- no one thriving.
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Edited by Civ (03/25/07 09:52 PM)
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Re: 3 strains 1 casing? [Re: Civ]
#6711724 - 03/26/07 12:33 AM (17 years, 8 days ago) |
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Why does this exact thread get repeated at least twice a month? This has been going on for years. Even the 'related threads' link below shows how often this gets repeated. The answer is easy to find in the search engine as well.
Strains of the same species do NOT compete for nutrients and they do NOT fight it out. That's absolutely silly. Do the genes of a lady from Florida and a man from Texas fight it out when they make a baby? Of course not. Squirt as many different strains into the same jar or substrate as you want. It's no different than multispore inoculation from one print. It's all the same species. Everybody who's done it has reported the same results. A normal flush that looks just like any multispore inoculated flush. RR
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Roadkill
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But...
by using more than one strain...
you don't know what strain of Cubensis you have!~
I hate these threads....
because Joe Blow will start mixing strains, growing them out then trading prints from multi-strain grows...
in turn destroying the integrity of established strains in the OMC.
Don't trade prints of strains that have been mixed!~
and prints from grows like these should be labeled "Unknown".
Period!~
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Re: 3 strains 1 casing? [Re: Roadkill]
#6712196 - 03/26/07 08:22 AM (17 years, 7 days ago) |
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Actually, they're not even strains bro. Most of the named 'strains' were simply named after the geological location the print was collected from, as if a man made line in the sand changes the genetics of biological creatures. If a guy collects a print in Florida and names it treasure coast, and another guy collects a print in Georgia and names it hillbilly, are they really different? Both grew in the same region, under the same weather conditions, and spores from both mix freely in the wind.
It's the same with all the SE Asia 'strains' in circulation. Lines on a map drawn by the British 50 years ago do not cause the mycelium that's been evolving for millions of years to suddenly morph into new strains, marketing considerations aside. They're all Cubensis.
There are distinct strains such as Penis Envy, various albinos and fruits that drop slightly different spore coloring, but the rest is marketing, not mycology and they all mix and match easily. My point was that putting spores from several named 'strains' in the same substrate does not result in a hybrid, since there's no verifiable difference between them. RR
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Roadkill
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I agree with you partially...
and it's ok that we do disagree on some things...I still you!~
lolzz
I'm not saying that different strains of Cubensis can't be grown together...mixed up in the same substrate.
I just don't want to see spores from these bastard types of grows traded!~
Cubensis strains are usually named after the area that they are collected in.
I think it's detrimental to spore collectors to have spore strains mixed up...
it ruins the credibility of where that particular strain is originated from.
I just don't want to see established strains get mixed up with bastard multi-strains.
dig?
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Re: 3 strains 1 casing? [Re: Myohmy]
#6712562 - 03/26/07 10:58 AM (17 years, 7 days ago) |
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it's not that big of a deal. i did it to see what would happen. I took two "different" well know strains in separate jars then i cased them together.
nothing happened really. unless some odd reason 1 mushroom out of all the casings is some crazy potent weird little creature, but i doubt,
so if you thinking of doing , do it, it don't matter like RR said.
nothing special happen.
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Re: 3 strains 1 casing? [Re: QDP843]
#6712656 - 03/26/07 11:32 AM (17 years, 7 days ago) |
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Are we talking about 3 different isolated strains of the same name (say all Hawaiians)? I know that's no problem.
Or are we talking about 3 different types of spore strains of different names (like Hawaiian, Pink Buffalo, and GT)? This just seems silly and I agree those should not be printed to protect various strains.
Just curious.
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yeah we are talking about 3 different types of spore strains of different names (like Hawaiian, Pink Buffalo, and GT)?
Exactly!~
People that collect spore prints don't want to have strains mixed up or mislabeled...
and there are alot of spore collectors in the OMC.
so don't trade bastard prints from casings with more than one strain...
is what I'm getting at!~
Example:
I'm sure Joe Blow wouldn't appreciate getting Penis Envy....
when Suck Me Sally traded him a so called Golden Teacher.
when in fact it came from a casing with Golden Teacher/South American/Penis Envy.
and Joe Blow is wondering why his mushrooms aren't looking like GT's and are looking like PE's!~
It's because Suck Me Sally didn't know what the fuck she was trading...
cause she had 3 different strains growing off one casing!~
I'm done making my point!~
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