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mikeytro
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acid addict?
#6621990 - 02/28/07 08:35 PM (17 years, 22 days ago) |
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So i have talked to 2 people now that have said something along the lines of....yea I ate acid constantly for a prolonged amount of time. one dude I work with told me he was on acid for an entire summer. I guess if you really dont want to be in this reality then i suppose that would make sense...but tripping for months at a time?! I need to be grounded personally
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Re: acid addict? [Re: mikeytro]
#6622020 - 02/28/07 08:46 PM (17 years, 22 days ago) |
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That's cool for him i guess..? Acid is not addicting.
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Re: acid addict? [Re: mikeytro]
#6622026 - 02/28/07 08:48 PM (17 years, 22 days ago) |
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Only simple folk do that to themselves.
They dont get the drift soon enough, so they abuse the drug and their own organic brain.....
People who use lsd like that dont strike me as being very smart.
"why should I have to intigrate my experience into some new form of reality when I can be there as often as my tolerance will allow"..........Thats some dumb shit right there.
Its hard to actually abuse yourself via hallucinogens. Its hard to abuse hallucinogenic drugs. The only people I know that do, are as dumb as a rock.
Thats just my personal experience.
I have also seen and known lsd/mushroom casualties.......
There is an organic and almost alchemical system. If you dont enter that system, psychedelics can fuck you royally, or worse than they could have done otherwise.
We have the same organic brain.
Those people were not mentally addicted, they just didnt know what better to do with themselves. A somewhat common occurrence as far as I have read at this site.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
Edited by yageman (02/28/07 08:51 PM)
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Re: acid addict? [Re: mikeytro]
#6622033 - 02/28/07 08:50 PM (17 years, 22 days ago) |
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Haha, good timing, i just finished a post about when i use to dose all the time. Two years ago i tripped for an entire season, didn't end up that good either. I'm still an acid addict, i took a hit earlier today actually. A friend of mine tripped on mushrooms for a month, almost everyday, so she says
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Re: acid addict? [Re: yageman]
#6622046 - 02/28/07 08:53 PM (17 years, 22 days ago) |
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yageman said: Only simple folk do that to themselves.
They dont get the drift soon enough, so they abuse the drug and their own organic brain.....
People who use lsd like that dont strike me as being very smart.
"why should I have to intigrate my experience into some new form of reality when I can be there as often as my tolerance will allow"..........Thats some dumb shit right there.
Its hard to actually abuse yourself via hallucinogens. Its hard to abuse hallucinogenic drugs. The only people I know that do, are as dumb as a rock.
Thats just my personal experience.
I have also seen and known lsd/mushroom casualties.......
There is an organic and almost alchemical system. If you dont enter that system, psychedelics can fuck you royally, or worse than they could have done otherwise.
We have the same organic brain.
Those people were not mentally addicted, they just didnt know what better to do with themselves. A somewhat common occurance as far as I have read at this site.
I see where you are coming from, but don't be so close minded. I know a handful of people that use psychedelics heavily, and a few friends that do LSD once or twice a week, including myself. I don't consider myself an Einstein but i'm no idiot
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mikeytro
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thats intense, how do you function/do regular stuff?
yageman - what do you mean people who don't enter this 'system', do you mean it has the potential to literally screw up your mind permanently?
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Edited by mikeytro (02/28/07 09:07 PM)
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yageman
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I was just talking about my experience with people like you.
I still would go out on a limb and call you a dumbass. Id give myself a 50/50% chance of hitting the nail on the head.
You are abusing psychedelics, which is hard to do. I KNOW 90/10% that you wont be doing so for long.
If you like them so much then be a man and take massive doses but less often. That should give you a reason to slow the hell down and give up your respects to a chemical.
If you take massive doses all the time, then I dont even know what to say. Youre a vegetable maybe?
You just never payed attention in "class"..... Thats my opinion. There are people who can use your style to their advantage(Im sure of it), but somehow I doubt that you are one of those people.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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Re: acid addict? [Re: yageman]
#6622109 - 02/28/07 09:07 PM (17 years, 22 days ago) |
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Not addictive, but surely easier to do regularly than other psychedelics like mushrooms. I've heard of acid binges that I can't imagine anyone attempting with mushrooms.
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Re: acid addict? [Re: mikeytro]
#6622117 - 02/28/07 09:08 PM (17 years, 22 days ago) |
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mikeytro said: thats intense, how do you function/do regular stuff?
jst - what do you mean people who don't enter this 'system', do you mean it has the potential to literally screw up your mind permanently?
I was the guy talking about the "system".
AND yes, it can certainly fuck you up permanently. Some people just couldnt believe that. Its true though. Anything you do effects you permanently, and psychedelics certainly are not excluded.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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Re: acid addict? [Re: yageman]
#6622162 - 02/28/07 09:20 PM (17 years, 22 days ago) |
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I agree that using psychedelics heavily will probably leave you in some sort of "haze". My heavy use from a while ago i'd say left me a little tipsy for a while afterwards, but i'm also a bit confused about this "system" you're talking about, permanently mashing your brain, and LSD deaths. And, you want me to be a man and take larger doses? How am i not respecting LSD? My LSD habit is no steeze, it's a choice. I don't take LSD so i can call up my friend and say "Hey man i'm tripping on L"
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yageman
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Quote:
jst said: I agree that using psychedelics heavily will probably leave you in some sort of "haze". My heavy use from a while ago i'd say left me a little tipsy for a while afterwards, but i'm also a bit confused about this "system" you're talking about, permanently mashing your brain, and LSD deaths. And, you want me to be a man and take larger doses? How am i not respecting LSD? My LSD habit is no steeze, it's a choice. I don't take LSD so i can call up my friend and say "Hey man i'm tripping on L"
The "system" has to do with how your brain(everyones brains) work with psychedelics. I never said anything about "lsd deaths" which furthers my point that you just might be a dumbass.
Its all good man. Just forget about what I said and keep eating hallucinogens like candy.
When I was a kid we would get as much suger-filled candy as we could, and get all hyper and laugh our asses off. I remind me of you in some ways.....lol
Dont worry about it man. You are clearly not even close to understanding my point, and im not sure that you can.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
Edited by yageman (02/28/07 09:38 PM)
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Abrainspot
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Re: acid addict? [Re: yageman]
#6622281 - 02/28/07 09:44 PM (17 years, 22 days ago) |
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Oh my bad, correction on the "LSD deaths" part, when you mentioned casualties i was thinking deaths rather than injuries
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i think when he said casualties he probably was referring to people in permanent drug induced psychosis.
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Abrainspot
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Re: acid addict? [Re: yageman]
#6622297 - 02/28/07 09:49 PM (17 years, 22 days ago) |
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Well i'm not callin you an idiot or anything. I just want to hear about this brain system you're talking about - being someone who uses psychedelics a lot its something i'd like to hear
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jst, I'd say you're taking his insults towards you really well. Yageman, do you have to rag on him that bad? I mean you're entitled to your opinions but DAMN bro
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Re: acid addict? [Re: dcstar500]
#6622458 - 02/28/07 10:23 PM (17 years, 22 days ago) |
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Sorry about the insults.
I gave percentages on how correct they may be.
Didnt mean to upset people.
I was talking about my own experience.
The "system" is your brain, and alks such as these resemble serotonin.
if you are not willing to accept that they can change your day to day life in both positive and negative ways, thats your fault.
Everyone reacts differently. We have the same damn brain though. The "system" I referred to is pretty deep and im not about to explain even the surface of the "system" to you. On the surface, for you, its just a brain being dosed again and again with serotonin type molecules. No big deal to me.
If you think you want to reside in a place that makes you less human and more of a machine dependant on lsd and similare chemicals, then thats fine with me.
My cognition doesnt need such fuel. Time and time again I use certain fuels to help me see the depths of my own perspectives and consciousness.
You are in a different boat though.
We both sail.
So more power to you. Keep using psychedelics 1-2 times a week. You know better that anyone else where you want to go, and where you think you might be going.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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Re: acid addict? [Re: yageman]
#6622531 - 02/28/07 10:46 PM (17 years, 22 days ago) |
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In my experience, the more frequently I used acid, the more I knew I couldn't continue to keep using acid that frequently. I know I personally have a radar that tells me when I'm going too far. But I never felt like I got to that point I was waiting for, until I looked back at all the acid I had done in so short a time. Even then, I probably would have continued if I had had it. But I knew the acid adventure was over for the time being. My mind was ready for it to be over too. So it ended when it needed to.
There may have been self-destructive motives in using acid like that, but I felt mostly like I was putting my brain through an experiment that I was the subject of. If that's foolish, well, the fool archetype has always followed me. I just decided that I was going to try and go too far. Tempted fate, and found faith. And I knew from those acidheads who've gone before me (Leary, who is said to have eaten acid on a weekly basis for most of his life for example, and Ram Dass who used acid quite excessively before he gave up the drug) that I would be okay.
Sure there have been positive and negative aspects to tripping so much. Was I addicted? Only to MYSELF, which I unveiled in great detail while under the influence of LSD. I became incredibly self-absorbed and I am an experience whore to say the least, but I daresay I don't mind or believe it's anything to be ashamed of. My life is mine to forge.
I'm also in a different place right now in regards to tripping. I have more of a desire for grounding at this time and don't feel the need to do it as much as I used to. I expect eventually I will reach a place in my life where I will not use substances at all. It's all phases with me.
So while yageman's confrontational posting at the beginning of the thread set me aback, I actually agree with his later post.
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You know better that anyone else where you want to go, and where you think you might be going.
That said, if excessive drug use of any type is causing negative consequences in your life, you should probably slow down or stop altogether.
edit: opps sorry yageman, I didn't mean to discuss you while I was replying to you. My bad.
Edited by MOTH (02/28/07 10:49 PM)
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Re: acid addict? [Re: MOTH]
#6622536 - 02/28/07 10:48 PM (17 years, 22 days ago) |
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Also "a lot of acid" is all relative. I've seen people down 30 hits like it was nothing, while two hits of the same stuff kicked my ass.
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Re: acid addict? [Re: MOTH]
#6622548 - 02/28/07 10:51 PM (17 years, 22 days ago) |
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MOTH said: That said, if excessive drug use of any type is causing negative consequences in your life, you should probably slow down or stop altogether.
Good point, you summed it up pretty good
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Well put, Moth.
Acid is non-addictive, but I expect that it is addictive in the way that, say, video games are: its fun. People want to do things that are fun, and if they can, will engage in non-stop 'fun' if at all possible.
Good luck, mikeytro.
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