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 Psy Baba
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 Just a quick question. 
#6500192 - 01/26/07 06:52 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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So my friend who tried 1/8th of shrooms and felt nothing decided he would like to try Morning Glory seeds.
We ordered 750 seeds from Iamshaman.
My question is...... He would like to take all 750 because of his extremely high tolerance to EVERYTHING I have ever had him try.
What are the possible worries he should have?
Any physical symptoms to worry about?
I did not advocate this high dosage it was on his own terms and I do not control him, I would just like to know what to expect.
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 Sunny
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 Re: Just a quick question. [Re: Psy Baba]
#6500370 - 01/26/07 08:00 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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he'll probably just wind up super duper nauseous, maybe some limb bluing. 750 is alot. infact it's a lot alot. but MG's LSA content is fairly low. I would try about 1/4 that. at most 300 seeds. I would strongly advise against a dosage that high.
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Psy Baba
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Re: Just a quick question. [Re: Sunny]
#6500396 - 01/26/07 08:06 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I may be able to talk him down to 400.
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I have an international Hitech Psytrance project with a friend: BioChronic
I make various form of Psytrance as a solo Project Dendriform
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Re: Just a quick question. [Re: Psy Baba]
#6500537 - 01/26/07 08:53 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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shoulda went with hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, you dont have to eat as many. i tried eating some MG seeds, i couldnt do it, just too many, my dog ended up eating them because they were in a sandwitch.(couldnt eat em plain alone)
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theleoj
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yeah try to talk him down as much as you can.
you can always do more next time.
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j3ckyl
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Re: Just a quick question. [Re: theleoj]
#6501251 - 01/27/07 02:09 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds a bit up himself, If he wants to do it let him. His limbs will probably go blue and he will most likely have to deal with some heavy duty puking, worst case scenario you may have to take him to A & E if he has a panic attack. Blue limbs = Seriously Not cool. Anyone who would consider this without reading anything about it almost deserves a bad trip, but we make mistakes to learn from them.
Educate thyself: http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory.shtml
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Psy Baba
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Re: Just a quick question. [Re: j3ckyl]
#6501446 - 01/27/07 04:48 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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What would be recommended to have a full blown visual trip without the bluing of the limbs?
This kid can seriously hold nasty things in his stomach and not get nausea.
He did eat and entire OUNCE of Amanitas and felt great the hole time, Still with no very apparent effects.
I cant really explain what his deal is, just seems no psychedelic really phazes his mindstate.
Thanks for the cautious advice though, always appreciated.
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I have an international Hitech Psytrance project with a friend: BioChronic
I make various form of Psytrance as a solo Project Dendriform
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Re: Just a quick question. [Re: Psy Baba]
#6501452 - 01/27/07 04:53 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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He will be fine if he can stomach the 750 seeds. Either take a shot of lime juice or have him smoke some grass, or both.
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j3ckyl
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Re: Just a quick question. [Re: theuser]
#6501559 - 01/27/07 06:16 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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450 possibly 500? Even 450 is higher than erowid recommends for its stronger effects. Tell him to take it on a completely empty stomach, that'll speed the process up a little.
Erowids 2 cents:
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Oral Ipomoea violacea Seed Dosages
Light 50 - 100 seeds 1.5 - 3 g
Common 100 - 250 seeds 3 - 6 g
Strong 250 - 400 seeds 6 - 10 g
Heavy 400 + seeds 10 + g
700 seeds has got to be at least 15gm of morning glory. Ginger tea will help with nausea. I personally always give myself a test dose of anything I take before moving out to push the envelope. I'd say order more, let him take around the 400 mark and if nothing? fine 700. Every drug is different, just because he may have complete tolerance to somethings it doesn't follow that it'll apply to everything. He really doesn't want to be caught off guard.
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"There are only two states of being: Too much and not enough"
Isnt the war on drugs supposed to reduce harm? So far all i see are casualties.
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Psy Baba
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Re: Just a quick question. [Re: j3ckyl]
#6501570 - 01/27/07 06:24 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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750 is 28g (jeez oh man). I am mostly likely going to talk him down drastically.
Thanks for the helpful info. I agree 100% with the testing, I am never one to push the envelope on a foreign substance.
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Sit up and meditate, there's no time to contemplate.
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I have an international Hitech Psytrance project with a friend: BioChronic
I make various form of Psytrance as a solo Project Dendriform
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Re: Just a quick question. [Re: Psy Baba]
#6501575 - 01/27/07 06:25 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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in weight, as seeds can drastically differ, don't go beyond 16 grams.
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j3ckyl
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Re: Just a quick question. [Re: theuser]
#6501596 - 01/27/07 06:36 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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There is another post in the psychedelic experience of someones trip on 11.5gms read it.>> http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6486224
Most likely talk him down? I'd seriously talk him down, though I have my reservations on actually having success consuming that amount but i'm not challenging anyone to do so. If you want to know how people react to large doses then go here>> http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Morning_Glory.shtml and read up as much as you can, most reports have dosages so you can get a rough idea of the strength in comparison to the amount he suggests. As an example, if I were to drink the amount my flatmate does in one session, i'd be in hospital.
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"There are only two states of being: Too much and not enough"
Isnt the war on drugs supposed to reduce harm? So far all i see are casualties.
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