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2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl
    #6470872 - 01/17/07 07:15 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I am currently reading this book. It is pretty good so far....

Has anyone else read this.. i think is pretty good... deals with mushrooms and spirituality and past cultures use thereof

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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #6470921 - 01/17/07 07:23 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

It's good. I liked Pinchbeck's first book a lot more though.

I like his chapter on crop circles. Kinda interesting.


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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #6470969 - 01/17/07 07:33 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

first book eh? ill have to ch ch che check it out next.

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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #6470998 - 01/17/07 07:40 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Read it a couple weeks ago. I thought it was great, though I've always been fairly obsessed with apocalyptic and prophetic notions, especially their ties to ancient civilizations and the correllation to psychedelics. He didn't tell me much that I already didn't know, but did get me interested in the crop circle phenomena which I then read a book on. He puts the the occuring changes in a good light though, so that even the 'common-folk' can understand and see the impending doom we're creating. No, I don't think the world's going to end, but there are changes occuring, on very large scales. We're about to undergo some drastic movements, whether you choose to see it or not, very, very soon. It's all for the better though, and incorporated into the divine plan. Keep an eye out for the signs... they've already begun.

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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: emeryg89]
    #6471043 - 01/17/07 07:53 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

okkie dokie...12212012..... the day our computers start adding there own numbers to our codes... ahh shit.

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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #6471182 - 01/17/07 08:24 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Pinchbeck is not very original and covers material that has been covered many times before...in the same ways that it has been covered in the past, but it is passable for casual (read "no thought") reading. If one reads the classics of psychedelic literature from the 60s 70s and 80s one will find this general material in a more original form.


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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #6471196 - 01/17/07 08:28 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

An important fact about Pinchbeck:

He is a self-proclaimed prophet, claiming to have received a direct (conversational) prophecy from an Aztec god (presumably Quetzalcoatl) while he was in Brazil.

He's another David Icke, guys. A washed up opportunist who infuses new age conspiracism with spiritual experience, and sadly, psychedelic experience. Another self-made new ager who writes books with ridiculously long titles. While I certainly appreciate social advocates of psychedelics and detractors of scientific materialism, people claiming to have had conversations with an ancient peacock snake-god while mentioning 2012 in the same breath is simply a bit too much, even for Stephen Colbert.


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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: Basilides]
    #6471219 - 01/17/07 08:37 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't read his book. But I have heard a couple rather fascinating lectures by pinchbeck on the psychedelic salon podcast. I posted some information on the podcast in the pub forum section. But if your interested in pinchbeck you might enjoy his talks. You can find them at www.matrixmasters.com/podcasts. I don't want to sound like a commercial since I've already mentioned these before but the podcast really is very superb and I would recommend checking it out.


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Gandalf: ...And then you see it.
Pippin: What, Gandalf? See what?
Gandalf: White shores . . . and beyond. A far green country, under a swift sunrise.
Pippin: Well, that isn't so bad.
Gandalf: [Softly:] No... No it isn't.

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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: Noveltyhead]
    #6471241 - 01/17/07 08:43 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

well whats some of those pshych authors and their books called from the Past era?

Maybe after reading these super books from the psyc movement in the 60's i will think Pinch is a little bitch?

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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #6471875 - 01/17/07 11:38 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I saw this, and almost picked it up, but decided against it. I've always been interested in the 2012 idea. On a side note, what is some good psychedelic literature that I should pick up?

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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: Lutraphobic]
    #6471969 - 01/18/07 12:06 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I read 2012 some time ago and found that although it did provide some interesting information that i could resonant with, in the end the book did not live up to my expectations.

IMO the really good psychedelic literature are still the works of Terence Mckenna. Someone still has yet to challenge his visionary ideas and revelations.

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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: Basilides]
    #6472450 - 01/18/07 04:22 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

On his web site forum he solicited readers for reviews of "Breaking Open the Head" and I posted a review that indicated that his book was alright, but mostly old hat. Mr Pinchbeck removed the review and he complained in a serious tone of whining when any reader gave a less than perfect review or offered suggestions. I hadn't read the new one because I suspected it is similarly self important bullshit.


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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: Basilides]
    #6472578 - 01/18/07 07:16 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I pretty much agree with you. Once I heard he had a divine transmission, I pretty much stopped listening to what he had to say. Still though, his first book Breaking Open the Head is great, IMO.


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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #6472850 - 01/18/07 10:21 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

each of us has pinchbeck's messiah complex somewhere within us - and make no mistake, that's what it is. there will be no end of the world - the world is a hollow shell, a dream: there is no coming into or leaving its confines except by actualizing the Noble Truths. time does not exist, you are the Buddha, and your suffering is an illusion. quetzlcoatl represents the eternal false hope: that there is some great guide in the sky; it is this hope which creates the duality which keeps our minds disconnected from our omnipresent higher nature.

"wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world" -Jerry Garcia


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any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: Lion]
    #6474037 - 01/18/07 04:59 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup:

Well said.

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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: emeryg89]
    #6474057 - 01/18/07 05:09 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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No, I don't think the world's going to end, but there are changes occuring, on very large scales. We're about to undergo some drastic movements, whether you choose to see it or not, very, very soon. It's all for the better though, and incorporated into the divine plan. Keep an eye out for the signs... they've already begun.




Changes? Like what, exactly?

What is the "divine plan"? Is it something that you have created?

Which signs have occured, and what do they mean?


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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6474104 - 01/18/07 05:24 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

i'm tired of thinking deep. Ignorance is where its at on this planet. And thats were i plan of living.

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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #6474128 - 01/18/07 05:31 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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i'm tired of thinking deep. Ignorance is where its at on this planet. And thats were i plan of living.




Ignorance will not benefit you in any manner. Are you aware of how many dog hairs are on your carpet? :sun:


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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6474149 - 01/18/07 05:35 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Yea, but i'm tired of bieng concerned with the hairs on my floor.
I need to forget about all that, and get concerned with how many hairs on my chicks's twat.

Ignorance isn't the right word. I ment more along the lines of Silence.

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Re: 2012 the Return of Quetzalcoatl [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #6474207 - 01/18/07 05:52 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Yea, but i'm tired of bieng concerned with the hairs on my floor.
I need to forget about all that, and get concerned with how many hairs on my chicks's twat.




One needs not be "concerned" with any of it. When one is on one's hands and knees, vacuuming the carpet with a shop-vac, then one directly perceives the dog hair and knows the amount of dog hair as it presents itself. When one's tongue is engaged in some serious pussy, then the amount of hair will be known for what it is (hopefully its not a lot of hair :grin:).

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Ignorance isn't the right word. I ment more along the lines of Silence.




The direct experience, reality as it unfolds and presents itself, one's state of being, perhaps? :wink:


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