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Pin Pin Plz Pin
    #6450962 - 01/12/07 01:07 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I have had my casing in for almost 2 weeks and no pinning. I have 12hr light cycles, 3-4 fans a day, 70-75 degrees, 95-98% humidity. Could there be anything missing? The mycelium is thick but not overlay thick. I have noticed that the casing has shrunk a little and separated from the pan, is this a problem. Any reccomendations are appreciated. :smile:

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Re: Pin Pin Plz Pin [Re: House]
    #6451038 - 01/12/07 02:10 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

You'll ahve to describe your casing procedures before anyone can help much. A pic would be nice too.

Is it coir? Coir sucks as a casing.

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Re: Pin Pin Plz Pin [Re: MajorDick]
    #6451120 - 01/12/07 03:22 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I think I put a quarter inch of moist vermiculite at the bottom, one inch of colonized substrate crumbled from jars, and about a 1/2 inch of horse manure/straw. It colonized all the valleys in a week so I put it in the fruiting chamber. I'll try to get a pic later.

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Re: Pin Pin Plz Pin [Re: House]
    #6451157 - 01/12/07 03:37 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

The verm at the bottom may actually be pulling moisture OUT of the substrate. It's not really recommended.

hpoo is not a casing material; it should have been mixed with the colonized substrate not layered. It's also a pretty thin substrate all together so don't expect too much.

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Re: Pin Pin Plz Pin [Re: MajorDick]
    #6451349 - 01/12/07 06:55 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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It should have been mixed with the colonized substrate not layered.


I have had a few ppl ask me about layering like this :confused: I think we need to figure out where everyone is getting this idea and erase it

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Re: Pin Pin Plz Pin [Re: Blutjager]
    #6452556 - 01/12/07 03:09 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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MajorDick said:
It should have been mixed with the colonized substrate not layered.


I have had a few ppl ask me about layering like this :confused: I think we need to figure out where everyone is getting this idea and erase it



I thought I saw to layer it in one of the faq's? Anyways, is the shrinking away from the pan normal or is that a sign of dehydration? Because it's layered is it going to take longer?

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Re: Pin Pin Plz Pin [Re: Blutjager]
    #6452626 - 01/12/07 03:25 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Blutjager said:
I have had a few ppl ask me about layering like this :confused: I think we need to figure out where everyone is getting this idea and erase it




This is the tek they are getting their information from:
(calls for a layer of verm)
http://www.shroomery.org/50/Casing-101

and here:  (calls for a layer of verm)
http://www.shroomery.org/54/50-50-Casing-Tek

and here:  (calls for a layer of verm)
http://www.shroomery.org/58/Sea-of-Shrooms

and here: (calls for a layer of verm)
http://www.shroomery.org/51/Easy-Casing-Method

and here: (calls for perlite)
http://www.shroomery.org/52/PF-Casing-Method

and here:
(doesn't call for a bottom layer, but does not mention pasteurization of the casing material)
http://www.shroomery.org/60/Sphagnum-Moss-Tek

Just wanted to speed read everything again to be useful to the community.  Thanks for all that you guys do!


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Re: Pin Pin Plz Pin [Re: MajorDick]
    #6452687 - 01/12/07 03:40 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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... Is it coir? Coir sucks as a casing.




Coir sucks as casing? What kind of casing do you prefer? (you ASS!)

Or do you just mean that it sucks as casing material when used by itself?


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Re: Pin Pin Plz Pin [Re: RoachMan]
    #6452919 - 01/12/07 04:38 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Coir rocks as a substrate to make a casing,than case it with moisture control

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Re: Pin Pin Plz Pin [Re: Blutjager]
    #6453855 - 01/12/07 09:40 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Coir rocks as a substrate to make a casing,than case it with moisture control



There ya have it.


If you gotta use coir use like a 75verm/25coir, and at least oyster shell, maybe hydrated lime for Ph.

Moisture Control Potting Mix is by far the easiest way to go for a casing. Look it up.

Look up 'Spawning to coir' also. You wont regret it.
Buy some gypsum (cheap as hell)

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Re: Pin Pin Plz Pin [Re: MajorDick]
    #6454000 - 01/12/07 10:34 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Ok so what do I need to do?

1. Will it eventually pin or is the casing done for?
2. The mass is shrinking and pulling away from the tray, is this normal or dehydration?

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Re: Pin Pin Plz Pin [Re: House]
    #6455245 - 01/13/07 11:35 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

It MIGHT pin.
Shrinkage usually happens after one or two flushes anyways from dehydration and i guess break down of all the food stuff too.
Its prolly shrinking so fast thanks to the verm on the bottom pulling out moisture even if it was moist verm.

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