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Man Tells Deputies: 'I'm Cooking Meth' [TN]
    #6419868 - 01/02/07 08:25 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Man Tells Deputies: 'I'm Cooking Meth'
January 2, 2007 - foxnews.com

ATHENS, Tenn. — When deputies knocked, Herman Scott Swafford told them what they already smelled. McMinn County Sheriff's Department records show deputies knocked on the door of an outbuilding, suspicious that someone might be making methamphetamine.

A report shows that Deputy Mike Patterson smelled a chemical odor and when he asked Swafford what was going on inside, Swafford said, "You know what's going on, I'm cooking meth."

A search that followed sent him to jail Sunday.

Deputies found a glass bottle with a plastic 20-ounce soda bottle attached to it with red electrical tape and a hot plate with the heat turned on. The report shows ingredients used to make meth were in the bottle and had been cooking about 45 minutes.

Swafford, 51, of Athens, was charged with starting the process of making methamphetamine and a probation violation warrant.

A hazardous materials team was called to dispose of the meth components.

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Re: Man Tells Deputies: 'I'm Cooking Meth' [TN] [Re: veggie]
    #6420471 - 01/03/07 12:03 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

well if your busted your busted....he knew they didnt come to just visit! ha ha ha!


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Re: Man Tells Deputies: 'I'm Cooking Meth' [TN] [Re: elduque]
    #6420627 - 01/03/07 02:43 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

ya... but did they have a warrant?


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Re: Man Tells Deputies: 'I'm Cooking Meth' [TN] [Re: drugsaregoodmmk]
    #6420632 - 01/03/07 02:49 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

prolly just hadnt slept for days

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Re: Man Tells Deputies: 'I'm Cooking Meth' [TN] [Re: drugsaregoodmmk]
    #6420687 - 01/03/07 04:14 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

If they didn't have a warrant I'm sure the smell would have been enough to get one, also if they were aware that the accused was residing at the residence I don't think they would have needed a warrant to search because he was on probation.

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Re: Man Tells Deputies: 'I'm Cooking Meth' [TN] [Re: Ojom]
    #6420866 - 01/03/07 08:33 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

if they smell it they dont need a warrant...its probable cause


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Re: Man Tells Deputies: 'I'm Cooking Meth' [TN] [Re: veggie]
    #6420966 - 01/03/07 09:25 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Damn....seems like a small reaction if he was using a "glass bottle with 20oz attatched to it"....

Wonder if it was RP/I or ammonia......

would think the later would smell enough in a small reaction setting to be smelled from outside,......but i dont know.


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Re: Man Tells Deputies: 'I'm Cooking Meth' [TN] [Re: veggie]
    #6421545 - 01/03/07 01:18 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

"You know what's going on, I'm cooking meth. Now leave me the fuck alone"


hahaha nice.


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Re: Man Tells Deputies: 'I'm Cooking Meth' [TN] [Re: Ojom]
    #6422105 - 01/03/07 04:42 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Ojom said:
If they didn't have a warrant I'm sure the smell would have been enough to get one, also if they were aware that the accused was residing at the residence I don't think they would have needed a warrant to search because he was on probation.




Just because they have probable cause doesnt mean they can search without your consent, but they would have gotten a search warrent in a few moments.


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Re: Man Tells Deputies: 'I'm Cooking Meth' [TN] [Re: TrancedShroom]
    #6422684 - 01/03/07 08:08 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

Ojom said:
If they didn't have a warrant I'm sure the smell would have been enough to get one, also if they were aware that the accused was residing at the residence I don't think they would have needed a warrant to search because he was on probation.




Just because they have probable cause doesnt mean they can search without your consent, but they would have gotten a search warrent in a few moments.




Um, No that is exactly what probable cause is. They have enough evidence to justify a search of the building.


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Re: Man Tells Deputies: 'I'm Cooking Meth' [TN] [Re: Flipz]
    #6423021 - 01/03/07 09:42 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

no your wrong...probable cause gives them a reason to get a warrent...you cannot enter a home just with probable cause you still need a warrent to enter the building.

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Re: Man Tells Deputies: 'I'm Cooking Meth' [TN] [Re: goose51]
    #6423076 - 01/03/07 09:59 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

probable cause pertaining to home searches can be tricky or cut and dry.

what else smells like a meth synthesis in progress?

either the guy had like 200 cats in the house or he was cooking dope.

the officers may have gotten a tip or maybe the guys house just stuck out via the smell in a very obvious manner. either way, in this case that is cut and dry probable cause to enter(drug manufacture is a serious crime :shrug: )

same with weed smoke. be it your house or your car, if you got weed smell or smoke billowing out....bam!...probable cause. no warrant needed in either case.

as far as i know, thats just the way the cookie crumbles.


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Re: Man Tells Deputies: 'I'm Cooking Meth' [TN] [Re: Schwip]
    #6423085 - 01/03/07 10:01 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Ever watch COPS on TV?

You get to see probable cause in action once in awhile on there.

Shitty as it may be, thats how it works.


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Re: Man Tells Deputies: 'I'm Cooking Meth' [TN] [Re: Schwip]
    #6423123 - 01/03/07 10:11 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

one of many sources, as quoted by actual lawyers.

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Probable cause is enough information to believe that it is more likely than not that a crime is in progress.

When it comes to entering a home, they are required to go talk with a judge about their probable cause and get a warrant, UNLESS there's no time because the evidence may disappear in the meantime. That means that they get to go in without a warrant in lots of drug and alcohol related matters.




taken from here: http://www.lawguru.com/cgi/bbs/mesg.cgi?i=894574171

quote from the very first reply to above link's question


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Re: Man Tells Deputies: 'I'm Cooking Meth' [TN] [Re: Schwip]
    #6423304 - 01/03/07 10:59 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

the man got snitched. he could have not been cooking and the chemicals put away, he was goin' down regardless. snitches are bitches


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Re: Man Tells Deputies: 'I'm Cooking Meth' [TN] [Re: jdirty]
    #6423322 - 01/03/07 11:06 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

could be.

i dont think its a big stretch of reality for this man to be cookin' up some dope when the cops show.?

who knows??

were you there? nope

i wasn't there.

who the fuck knows.


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