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Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa
    #6400832 - 12/23/06 11:14 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I heard that indica's contain more THC than Sativa's and less CBN or CBC. Therefore creating a shorter more intense high. While Sativa's contain less THC but create a more mellow but prolonged high. Am i correct or is my friend saying sativas contain more THC and a shorter high.

I know indicas grow away from the equator naturally, and sativa's grow closer. Indica's smell harsher, and indicas smell sweeter. We both agree on that, if thats true.


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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6401082 - 12/24/06 01:34 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I believe Indicas are more common throughout the US. The Indica-dominant strains are popular among indoor growers because they are smaller and can be grown with shorter turn-around time.

Real sativas are beautiful plants that grow in the warm weather and can become very large during the year with a long growing season. Sativas can have large leaves too.

People often echo "Indica gives more body-high and couchlock, sativa gives the mental high and energy."

I guess Sativas have a sweeter smell, but I think they are the ones with more THC, which can also cause anxiety. I don't know anything about a difference in the duration of the high.

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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: Compass]
    #6401095 - 12/24/06 01:41 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

yeah Compass's remark about "Indica gives more body-high and couchlock, sativa gives the mental high and energy." is something me and my friend have always felt.. but most weed out there are hybrids and i rmber trying pure bred sativ once and it wa a really strong head high, as for real data no help here. so sorryy hehe


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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6401120 - 12/24/06 01:55 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Sativa's are known for more of a up high or clear high so they actually have less cbn and cbc.

Incica are know for more of a body high. The most potent strain tested so far is White Russian which is a indica dominant plant. Indica plants come from Afghanistan or the boarder with Pakistan and no other place. Cannabis plants from another place (active cannabis plants that is) are sativas. They (indica plants) are also known for thier wide leaves but can be found with thin one's like these

Some sativas (Durban Poison for example) will flower as fast as indica plants do and stay fairly short and stocky. A typical example of the classic sativa plant (tall and takes for ever to flower) are Columbian, Mexican, and Thai.


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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: Magash]
    #6401266 - 12/24/06 03:52 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Most of what I always got as a younger lad in aussie was pretty much skunk - so when i got to try some other varieties like Northern Lights and especially Jack Flash it was like a breeze of fresh air...
I know fuck all about strains of weed, but i can make a good bong out of menial kitchen items...


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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: Compass]
    #6402253 - 12/24/06 03:24 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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I guess Sativas have a sweeter smell, but I think they are the ones with more THC, which can also cause anxiety.




Think? Does anyone actually know?? Cuz i think different from my reading and experience. Anyone got something i can read?? I read in the cannabis growers guide deluxe, Indica's have more THC giving them a more intense, shorter lasting high. It may be possible i am turned around on the subject, but i am pretty positive. I wish i had the book still.


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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6402705 - 12/25/06 03:08 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

The amount of THC depends on the strain and the growing conditions.

For example the hemp strains of Sativa that have VERY low THC content.

The THC:CBD ratio is discussed on Wikipedia and Sativa has a higher THC:CBD ratio.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_indica#C._sativa_subsp._sativa_var._sativa


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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: Compass]
    #6402719 - 12/25/06 03:51 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

stuck to your couch you got indica, celebral got sativa. Thc has nothing to do with it, its the cbd/cbn ratio. Hemp is ruderallis(sp), and you sid indica smells harsh, indica smells sweet in the 1st post

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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6402794 - 12/27/06 04:57 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

From personal experience Indicas make me laugh a lot and contemplate things and Sativas make my head float up to the ceiling while the rest of my body falls off, hope that helps...


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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: Gr33nTree73]
    #6403097 - 12/27/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Either way....... I love pot!

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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6403510 - 12/27/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Compass thank you. you seem to come through allot, and you make me a new believer in wykapedia as a great source for everything.

However, it does say in wykapedia
"Plants of this type (Indica) are relatively short, conical, and densely branched, having characteristically wide leaflets, and tend to produce a lower ratio of THC to CBD than drug types of C. sativa subsp. sativa"

It also says the CBD is "not psychoactive"

I am more interested in the THC-CBN Ratio.
am i wrong or is CBN not psychoactive as well?

I heard that THC intensifies the experience and CBN prolongs the experience.

Also in the Cannabis growers guide deluxe it showed several indica strains and several sativa strains and had percentages by weight of each THC-CBN-CBD

I will look for some experiments online, if anyone has a link please help



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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6403602 - 12/27/06 10:17 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I hadn't read much about CBN, as Wiki doesn't mention it much.

I'm reading this article related to it (about Cannabinoids).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoids#Natural_cannabinoids

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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: Compass]
    #6404542 - 12/28/06 10:56 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Indica is a shorter, bushier plant that's more of a couchlocked body high.

Sativa is a taller, thinner plant that's more of a mind high.

Indica + food + tv/video games all the way.


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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: goodolgoogy]
    #6406265 - 12/28/06 07:49 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I wouldnt call this so much as experiments they could be, however they are trying to sell you something. here is good link with THC levels of certain plants, unfortunately all other chems are not listed.
http://www.salvia-divinorum-supplies.co.uk/products.php?id=12


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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6407033 - 12/29/06 01:49 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Compass: OK i was wrong THC:CBD is the ration i am looking for. Wikipedia states its non-psychoactive however it does play a roll. It is also claiming it reduces the euphoric effects of THC.

And Wikipedia says about CBD:
"It may decrease the rate of THC clearance from the body, perhaps by interfering with the metabolism of THC in the liver. Medically, it appears to relieve convulsion, inflammation, anxiety, and nausea."
also describes to have a "sedative quality"

So if this is the case, why does indica cause "Couch-lock" when sativa's have a higher THC:CBD ratio (apparently)? Sedative quality? I thought it was non psychoactive?


I still want some numbers and percentages on pure indica's


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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6407198 - 12/29/06 04:15 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

It is impossible to exact numbers but estimates..
There are so many environmental and growth variables that affect the grow of the plant, thus also the measurements and end results may shift. (hydro/soil, how many days of flowering, lighting, nutrients..)

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So if this is the case, why does indica cause "Couch-lock" when sativa's have a higher THC:CBD ratio (apparently)? Sedative quality? I thought it was non psychoactive?




Am I missing the point or what but here goes..

Sativa's higher THC:CBD ratio means that there is more THC and less CBD in comparison.
It is possible for an Indica to have more THC(percentage) but at the same time it is impossible(?) for indica to have a higher THC:CBD ratio, meaning that there is larger amounts of CBD in Indica.

So if indica has a higher THC percentage and lower THC:CBD ratio it means it has even more CBD (in comparison to Sativa), thus acting more sedative like. Locks you onto the couch.

edit: I'm getting confused now, hard to explain

Edited by astraalialma (12/29/06 04:28 AM)

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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: astraalialma]
    #6408690 - 12/29/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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It is impossible to exact numbers but estimates..
There are so many environmental and growth variables that affect the grow of the plant.........

It is possible for an Indica to have more THC(percentage) but at the same time it is impossible(?)




I know that every plants THC:CBD contents are determined by the grower, and every plant is an individual. I could grow some Jack Herer and if i water it once every 12 days and never add fertilizer... i probably wont be getting what MR.Jack like to brag about.

Also THC percentages are posted often by commercial growers and can be obtained.
http://www.salvia-divinorum-supplies.co.uk/products.php?id=12


I have read studies where they give 3 examples of pure indicas and three examples of pure sativa. All chemicals were recognized (THC:CBD:CBN) with an accurate percentage for each chemical posted. How do they get these numbers? I am not saying all these plants were grown by the same person or in the same environments, under the same conditions. They shouldn't b/c sativas and indicas should be cared for differently. But does this make this study inaccurate. I a m sure it does to a certain point, but for the most part, the numbers were similar ( at least in the ratio )

- Does anyone have cannabis growers guide deluxe??? This was the source of the study i just mentioned.

- I agree it is not impossible ( its up to the grower )


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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6427204 - 01/05/07 07:26 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Again excuse me for not knowing anything about pot, but isnt THC produced by the plant to protect it from UV rays? Therefore the stronger the UV rays the more THC produced?? Smack me if that is simplistic...


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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #6427239 - 01/05/07 08:00 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Yes it could be that simple.

There was a thread in Overgrow.com that was about UV-a/b/c-bulbs and discussion about UV positive effect to THC percentage of plant.

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Re: Please!! THCd dispute Indica & Sativa [Re: astraalialma]
    #6427329 - 01/05/07 08:43 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Indica = really nugged rock hard and dark (typical). Down stoned high.

Sativa = really airy, light, light colored, puffy, green. (typical). Up energetic high.

Potency varries plant to plant. Sativa's will have a light fresh smell usually. A lot of pure-ish sativa's arn't bred for potency (too trippy of a high) but instead are bred for their TYPE of high (ex. Kali Mist). 

I donno if sun protection is the SOLE purpose for making THC, but I do know grow rooms with UV lights in them get a HELLUVA lot more resin on their plants.  :grin:


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