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 agar
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 V - OIL 
#6399728 - 12/23/06 04:26 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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 mushroomcult
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 Re: V - OIL [Re: agar]
#6399807 - 12/23/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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very interesting
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acacia314
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Yeah I had thought of something similar after reading the corn syrup LC tek.
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Blutjager
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Another nice find
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Dem_Bones
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how do you like them yield rates , thats proper method for you
4.88 pounds per square foot of tray
there are no cakes to be found in that lab!
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Dem_Bones
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make that 5.6l lbs on page 847 
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zeegos
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yea, iv seen vegetable oil mentioned from time to time. iv never used it myself but i'll certainly use it when making my new compost pile. i'd like to see the comparison of a normal hpoo casing with one containing v-oil. i might try it out when my SA spawn is ready.
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Fingerfoods
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Re: V - OIL [Re: zeegos]
#6401773 - 12/24/06 12:03 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Does anyone do this on the regular? sounds like this should be the new standard.
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MajorDick
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The cottonseed oil & meal seem pretty interesting.
I've been searching for like a half hour, and I'm having trouble finding it in any retail store all I can find is wholesale.
Any suggestions?
Edit:
This is as close as I could get:
http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTarget=search&hvarTextId=51602&cm_mmc=nextag-_-350-7-1-_--1-_-38-610-002-86&hvarAID=nextag&mr:referralID=5d53e624-76e8-458c-9af6-ac64973d12af]
Edited by MajorDick (12/24/06 02:01 PM)
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Primate
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hard to say since that wasn't cubes. Though it's def worth some experimentation. I know i have heard about use of oils mentioned in the past.
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agar
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Quote:
Fingerfoods said:
Does anyone do this on the regular? sounds like this should be the new standard.
I do it & have for a few years.
I use it making compost.
Plus, add a couple shot glass's full.
To h/poo, just before I pasteurize it.
So, 2 oz's, to 5 to 8 lbs of hydrated h/poo.
Once mixed in well, you cannot tell it's even there.
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etam
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Re: V - OIL [Re: agar]
#6402302 - 12/24/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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agar said:
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Fingerfoods said:
Does anyone do this on the regular? sounds like this should be the new standard.
I do it & have for a few years.
I use it making compost.
Plus, add a couple shot glass's full.
To h/poo, just before I pasteurize it.
So, 2 oz's, to 5 to 8 lbs of hydrated h/poo.
Once mixed in well, you cannot tell it's even there.
I think a lot of people are going to start doing this now. Everyone has vegetable oil sitting around.
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MajorDick
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Re: V - OIL [Re: etam]
#6402365 - 12/24/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah I've read about V-Oil in a few posts. I know agar uses it in his compost from a post he had on quick composting in barrels or something. I've read a few people use it in casings. I'm sure vegetable oil makes a very fine casing additive. And I'm sure someone will experiment with it (I'm sure WHO will too.). However, I'm kinda more interested in the more exotic oils mentioned in the article. Maybe he'll experiment with those too.
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Fingerfoods
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Re: V - OIL [Re: etam]
#6402367 - 12/24/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Does it only work with compost and hpoo or could I add some V-oil to coir and get similar results?
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Edited by Fingerfoods (12/24/06 04:00 PM)
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agar
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It should work with coir, like any other high fiber substrate.
Just don't go overkill with it.
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MajorDick
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Well actually that brings up a good question.
Should it be supplemented at spawning or casing or both?
Guess thats just another factor for experimentation. The article seems to show about the same values for both.
How much is too much? Could or should oil be used in both the spawn and casing?
I know if I had the resources I would be playing around with the idea.
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Liquidkick
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Re: V - OIL [Re: agar]
#6402389 - 12/24/06 04:12 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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i use it regularly myself.
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agar
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Should it be supplemented at spawning or casing or both?
If you have dry compost or h/poo.
You mix it in, when you hydrate the dry substrate.
Then, pasteurize the substrate.
(cool to room temps)
Then add spawn.
I see no way to add it, when you add a casing cover mixture.
The substrate is already colonized.
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Shnezbit
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Re: V - OIL [Re: agar]
#6407815 - 12/29/06 11:20 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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is crisco vegetable oil ok?
also, at the health food store i saw quinoa oil and flax seed oil, and some other grain based oils i'm now forgetting the names of. does anyone think these would be better than just plain v-oil?
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hfactor
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 Re: V - OIL [Re: Shnezbit]
#6407907 - 12/29/06 11:51 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol wow they had a perfect way of cultivating these back in 1967.... Why wasnt this article just considered like the bible hahah. Seriously though thats some sick data. Which ever mycologist did this in 1967 is a genius  Once he discovered this there was almost no reason to try anything else..... his method looks about perfect. Agar u continue to amaze me with your finds  .
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