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    #6370225 - 12/14/06 12:31 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

i found these this morning while walking to the local market. they were found in soil with woody debris mixed in. seems like it used to be mulch but now is mostly dirt. the caps were VERY sticky and there were 2 small clusters of these a few inches apart from eachother. one set was mature, the other a set of newly formed pins.
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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #6370450 - 12/14/06 01:29 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like a cortinarius of some sort, but impossible to tell from those pics. Let us know when you have the spore print.

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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom [Re: xmush]
    #6382174 - 12/18/06 03:39 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like a lawn galerina to me.
If im right its poisonous.

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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom [Re: xmush]
    #6382179 - 12/18/06 03:42 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like a lawn galerina to me.
If im right its poisonous.

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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom [Re: learysprotoge]
    #6382275 - 12/18/06 05:52 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

completely impossible to ID.
to young, too blurry.
need that print too, try getting from OLDER specimine

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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom [Re: Mitchnast]
    #6382323 - 12/18/06 06:59 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Agreed. Young specimens can look very ambiguous, their unique defining features only showing at maturity.


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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom [Re: CureCat]
    #6383716 - 12/18/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Agreed.  Young specimens can look very ambiguous, their unique defining features only showing at maturity.




On the contrary rly maturee speci's can look very ambiguous, their are unique and defining features only showing at adolescents. :crazy2:


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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom [Re: snoot]
    #6384256 - 12/18/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Is that so??  Oh- why yes, it is!  I didn't say "rly mature" I said "at maturity".  Old rotten mushrooms are just as hard to ID as pinners.

Anyone else wanna argue that the pins are easier to ID than the grown ups??  :tongue:


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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom [Re: CureCat]
    #6386494 - 12/19/06 01:12 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I say it's best to have them at as many stages of growth as possible. I pick big and small ones of the same type. There are features in some species that are only there when they are young, or the other way around... :crazy:


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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom [Re: eris]
    #6386820 - 12/19/06 02:31 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Some, but few, compared to the vast majority which are obvious at maturity.

Yes, it IS best to have a few different stages of growth, but as you are well aware, people often find solitary specimens.


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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom [Re: CureCat]
    #6388001 - 12/19/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

The caramel coloring makes them look like small frozen cyans (immature), but I cant tell beacuse of their age.

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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom [Re: Pigsarefood]
    #6388270 - 12/19/06 09:23 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

But the stipe is way off for a cyan.


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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom [Re: CureCat]
    #6388308 - 12/19/06 09:33 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

that said, they do resemble stuntzii and that ilk.
but that is by no means certain

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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom [Re: Mitchnast]
    #6388395 - 12/19/06 09:49 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I still think cortinarius looking at that cobwebby (aka cortina-like) veil that you see. But I could be way off. Not a genus that I have much experience finding.

Edited by xmush (12/19/06 09:50 PM)

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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom [Re: xmush]
    #6388459 - 12/19/06 10:08 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I do think that is a reasonable conslusion, however, the cobweb like partial veil is seen in other genera as well...

Galerina marginata


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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom [Re: CureCat]
    #6390147 - 12/20/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

G. marginata does not have a smooth white stem at all as shown in your image Curecat. Here are some Galerina marginata originaly identified by T. Stijve.



The stem is scabulous and scaly as seen here in one of these images of G. marginata



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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom [Re: mjshroomer]
    #6390488 - 12/20/06 02:14 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

It was a hasty ID, so I looked around some more... another possibility is Kuehneromyces vernalis.
Here are some photos of the mushrooms.







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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom (New Pics WITH BLUING!) [Re: CureCat]
    #6402116 - 12/24/06 02:16 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

here's the newest pics of this patch again. alot of mature ones, alot with "bluing" on the caps.











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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom (New Pics WITH BLUING!) [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #6402555 - 12/24/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Hmmm, those look different than the original specimen, but perhaps it's just the photos. Those look like Psilocybes. Do spore print to confirm a purple/brown colour. Also, take the cap of one, and try splitting it in half- you will be looking for a seperable pellicle, a gelatinous layer on top of the cap that can be peeled off when moist. I'm thinking perhaps Ps. cyanofibrillosa.


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Re: Please ID Seattle Mushroom (New Pics WITH BLUING!) [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #6402895 - 12/27/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

They are nasty mutated rotted P. stuntzii specimens,

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