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stickyicky13
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How much different is Lsa to Lsd?
#6220851 - 10/28/06 12:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have come to believe that LSD is the cats pajamas, but unfortunately can't get hold of any, I even doubt that I'll get any in my life. I can ofcourse get LSA seeds and want to know how much different is the trip? Do they give differnt visuals?
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Re: How much different is Lsa to Lsd? [Re: stickyicky13]
#6220879 - 10/28/06 12:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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This much: *holds arms out*
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bluedolphin
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Re: How much different is Lsa to Lsd? [Re: Newbie]
#6221071 - 10/28/06 02:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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There's a lot of similarities but I find LSAs to resemble mushrooms just a little more than they resemble LSD.
HBWR/Morning glory seeds also have the tendency to make your stomach feel like shit, cause your legs and abdomen to cramp, and such.
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ExplosiveMango
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Re: How much different is Lsa to Lsd? [Re: stickyicky13]
#6221126 - 10/28/06 02:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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stickyicky13 said: I have come to believe that LSD is the cats pajamas, but unfortunately can't get hold of any, I even doubt that I'll get any in my life. I can ofcourse get LSA seeds and want to know how much different is the trip? Do they give differnt visuals?
LSA is more work to get the same amount out of. It will not treat you to a good trip unless you prepare yourself very well.
With that in mind, it provides awesome trips when you invest yourself in them. Lots of body load though, you need to be able to ascend your mind from your body somewhat.
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Re: How much different is Lsa to Lsd? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
#6221210 - 10/28/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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there are good ways to prepare, that greatly reduce the body load, and none of them involves petroleum ether, paint thinner, or any kind of lighter fluid!
Simply grind the husks from the seeds and sift through a tea strainer. The resulting powder (hopefully whitish and low on dark black seed coat specks) is decently psychedelic at around 2 grams.
Consuming the powder does cause some bodily discomfort, but much less than chewing the seeds, and much less nauseating than drinking a seed brew. A simple extraction of this powder with some kind of juice would probably be ideal.
Still quite a far cry from LSD, but I prefer the morning glories anyway. They both feel somewhat the same though, and you'll notice a marked similarity.
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JohnP
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I tried 5 woodrose seeds the other night. It was a fun trip, very nice body buzz. My mind wasn't running crazy like it does on mushrooms, and I didnt get cought in any thought loops. The visuals were nothing amazing though. If you are looking for a visual trip, seems to me like HBWR doesn't have much to offer.
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Re: How much different is Lsa to Lsd? [Re: JohnP]
#6221782 - 10/28/06 07:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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only ever had one trip on lsa were i didn'T throw up, was the most intense trip i'Ve had my 3rd eye was basically ripped open, and it reeally became an eye, like i turned my head left and right, and the 3rd eye properly turned with them. was so confusing trying to walk through the park though, the bright 3rd eye world in contrast with the pitch black surroundings ^^, was great
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AmericaOnLSD
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Re: How much different is Lsa to Lsd? [Re: SapphireCat]
#6221997 - 10/28/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, here is what Albert Hoffman had to say about LSA in his _LSD My Problem Child_ book:
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After the discovery of the psychic effects of LSD, I had also tested lysergic acid amide in a selfexperiment and established that it likewise evoked a dreamlike condition, but only with about a tenfold to twentyfold greater dose than LSD. This effect was characterized by a sensation of mental emptiness and the unreality and meaninglessness of the outer world, by enhanced sensitivity of hearing, and by a not unpleasant physical lassitude, which ultimately led to sleep. This picture of the effects of LA-l 1 1, as lysergic acid amide was called as a research preparation, was confirmed in a systematic investigation by the psychiatrist Dr. H. Solms.
..... These studies on the active principles of ololiuhqui seeds, although they were published only in professional journals, had an unexpected sequel. We were apprised by two Dutch wholesale seed companies that their sale of seeds of Ipomoea violacea, the ornamental blue morning glory, had reached unusual proportions in recent times. They had heard that the great demand was connected with investigations of these seeds in our laboratory, about which they were eager to learn the details. It turned out that the new demand derived from hippie circles and other groups interested in hallucinogenic drugs. They believed they had found in the ololiuhqui seeds a substitute for LSD, which was becoming less and less accessible.
The morning glory seed boom, however, lasted only a comparatively short time, evidently because of the undesirable experiences that those in the drug world had with this "new" ancient inebriant. The ololiuhqui seeds, which are taken crushed with water or another mild beverage, taste very bad and are difficult for the stomach to digest. Moreover, the psychic effects of ololiuhqui, in fact, differ from those of LSD in that the euphoric and the hallucinogenic components are less pronounced, while a sensation of mental emptiness, often anxiety and depression, predominates. Furthermore, weariness and lassitude are hardly desirable effects as traits in an inebriant. These could all be reasons why the drug culture's interest in the morning glory seeds has diminished.
I've done LSA (morning glory seeds) several times. I've gotten really weird thought spaces but have never seen any visuals, with the exception of some trails and after-images from staring at things. I think there may be other chemicals in morning glories besides LSA that contribute the the effects. I say this because when I did a 2-step extraction instead of a water extraction I didn't even get dilated pupils with twice the amount. I've heard others describe LSA (well, eating either HBWR or Morning Glory seeds, which contain LSA and some other chemicals) as being "like LSD without the visuals" - i.e. totally a thought trip. But I've never had LSD so I can't vouch for that or offer a comparison of my own.
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bluedolphin
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Re: How much different is Lsa to Lsd? [Re: AmericaOnLSD]
#6222034 - 10/28/06 08:55 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've had significant visuals from morning glory and HBWR seeds.
Not as intense as I've had with some other psychedelics, but the quality of the LSAs visuals were fantastic, very realistic!
No doubt if it were not for the nausea and cramping I usually experienced I'd count this among one of the best psychedelics there is.
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MustNotBe
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Re: How much different is Lsa to Lsd? [Re: bluedolphin]
#6222324 - 10/28/06 10:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just ran across a half ounce. Maybe you will get lucky too.
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Re: How much different is Lsa to Lsd? [Re: MustNotBe]
#6224783 - 10/29/06 06:38 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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alot
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EquilibriuM
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Re: How much different is Lsa to Lsd? [Re: CerebralFlower]
#6224787 - 10/29/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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CerebralFlower said: alot
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Re: How much different is Lsa to Lsd? [Re: EquilibriuM]
#6224941 - 10/29/06 07:16 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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as different as A is to D
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