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swandizzle
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50/50+ mix query.
#6185984 - 10/19/06 11:16 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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heeey first post. love these boards. anyhoo. i see lots of people refer to using the '50/50+' mix when casing their booms, does this refer to the classic 50% verm 50% coco mix, or the 50/50 straw hpoo mix from tenn stud? or 50 vermiculite 50 peat moss? and oyster shell? all of them? also, does the '+' have any relevence? i suppose this information would be easier to find if the search term '50/50+' worked. but it doesnt. so i saw Agar comment that he would order casing mixes 1) myco nitro 2) mushroom compost 3) hpoo and as the inventor of myco nitro, i tend to trust his judgement. do you suppose this comment takes into account the 50 straw 50 hpoo mix from tenn stud, which *they* claim is 40% better than other mushroom compost? i know i would go for some myco nitro if i could get it, but what is your opinion on the order of the second two? ive seen some great results with straw, hpoo, verm/coir, verm/peat, verm/peat/lime/oyster, hell even plain cakes. i'm of the (relatively widespread) opinion that casing is the way to go, im just wondering which way to go the way to go. rawk.
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creamcorn
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Re: 50/50+ mix query. [Re: swandizzle]
#6185994 - 10/19/06 11:21 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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casing mixes and substrates are two completely different things. myco nitro, compost, poo are substrates and have no place in any amount in a casing layer. agar has apparenty and unfortunately been ill and is away from the boards, myco-nitro is his own personal compost mix, so you're not going to be able to get any of that specifically. there's many bulk substrate choices available though - other types of compost, poo, straw, coir...
50/50+ is verm and peat. the "+" implies you're taking the extra step of pH buffering with lime and oyster shell. tenn stud does sell a 50/50 straw/poo product like you mention (which again for clairity sake is a substrate, not a casing), but the term "50/50" almost always means the classic verm and peat casing mix.
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Westnile
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Re: 50/50+ mix query. [Re: swandizzle]
#6186006 - 10/19/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Verm/peat/lime is pretty dope. The peat acts as a clear indicator as to how wet the casing is. The verm does a good job of holding and supplying moisture (the peat does too!) and the lime helps sustain long grows by keep contams at bay.
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swandizzle
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Re: 50/50+ mix query. [Re: creamcorn]
#6186008 - 10/19/06 11:26 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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damn i knew i was confused somewhere along the line. so just to straighten myself out: the 50/50 tenn stud straw hpoo would be what i apply a fully colonized, say, jar of rye berries and allow to propogate again, then *case* with say 50/50+ verm/(coir/peat)/((oyster/lime)for ph)? i was so damn eager to have a relevent question for my first post. i guess thats a rather big item to be cleared up for me though. thanks.
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creamcorn
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Re: 50/50+ mix query. [Re: swandizzle]
#6186036 - 10/19/06 11:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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^^^ yep now you got it.
and P.S., just a tidbit re: Westnile's comment, peat actually holds more moisture than verm by weight. the verm is more or less to help keep an "open" texture to the mix, peat alone takes on more of a muddy texture
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MADPANTSDOME
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Re: 50/50+ mix query. [Re: swandizzle]
#6186041 - 10/19/06 11:33 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea creamcorn is right. with beat make sure you use "the extra step of pH buffering with lime and oyster shell" I tryed it without and contamed so fast it blew my mind. Then I tryed it with a ph balencer FYI jiffy mix from walmart. It worked great.
For your first grow I would not do casings casing produce bigger more potent fruits prolly like the "booms" you have tryed before But dont underestimate pftek grown mushrooms. they are easy and very powerful I would say slightly under cased. some people say double the dose but I dont think its even nessesary to up the dose much at all. Me and my good friend have both been careless I just tossed them into out mouths expecting them to be weak and triped for 8 hours + evenutally going into a bad trip.
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swandizzle
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madpants: i'm from detroit, so yea, they're "booms". ive taken shrooms about two dozen times, with trips ranging from giggly to completely religious. i'm not worried about the potency, and i'm feelin' randy, so a-casing we will go.
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