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Mr420
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Vote on my Casing layer.
#6149000 - 10/09/06 01:23 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alright there's a lot of contention between these 2 types of casing material so you guys vote on what I do with my jars that are about to be crumbled to case in 2-3 days.I have all this stuff around already so it was next to impossible for me to choose.They're all cubes done in pf tek cause I'm a growing noob,and it seemed to be a given to get a harvest of at least some for printing and well that other obvious reason .
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: Mr420]
#6149006 - 10/09/06 01:25 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you're an absolute noob, just go with the miracle grow MC. It's pre-mixed, pre-balanced, and probably good enough to use right out of the bag. The less steps you have to do, the less you can mess up.
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: Mr420]
#6149012 - 10/09/06 01:29 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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do a rez effect casing..
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Mr420
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: zathan]
#6149018 - 10/09/06 01:35 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not that much of a noob just to shroom growing,so I strayed away from poo etc.Mixing and balancing ph is no problem.
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: Mr420]
#6149118 - 10/09/06 03:16 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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if you are a noob to shroom growing then you are a noob to mushroom cult. just go with the already mixed stuff and when you get a little better and your feet wet then i would go coir verm
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HippieChick
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: Mr420]
#6150877 - 10/09/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I voted for other , as in NONE . I've spent the last year doing comparisons of cased and uncased substrates and I'm coming to the decision that it doesn't really make that much of a difference with cubes . Especially if you only go two flushes .
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: HippieChick]
#6150901 - 10/09/06 05:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you're looking for simplicity with casings, then go with a standard peat based potting medium. Simply pasteurize the material for an hour and use once cooled. Don't get any easier. And you certainly don't achieve great results with cubensis un-cased, as you would with a cased substrate if you know what you're doing.
Edited by Hotnuts (10/09/06 05:07 PM)
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HippieChick
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: Hotnuts]
#6150990 - 10/09/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hotnuts said: And you certainly don't achieve great results with cubensis un-cased, as you would with a cased substrate if you know what you're doing.
I beg to differ . I've gotten just as big of flushes cased or un cased .
I'm not seeing that much difference with cubes . That is with bulk subs and not cakes or such .
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: HippieChick]
#6151003 - 10/09/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I disagree. You've got a mighty large spot there that isn't providing fruit bodies. Why?
No need to answer, I know why.
Edited by Hotnuts (10/09/06 05:31 PM)
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: Hotnuts]
#6151008 - 10/09/06 05:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: HippieChick]
#6151042 - 10/09/06 05:45 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi HC...So you dont even bother casing? I have a few 1 quart rye berry jars almost colonized with amazons...Can I just dump them in a ceramic bowl and apply to fruiting conditions?
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: Helltick]
#6151062 - 10/09/06 05:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: Hotnuts]
#6151122 - 10/09/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow...what would you do if you were a noob like me with 4-1 quart rye jars almost colonized? I have a Martha type setup (4 tier greenhouse) -ultrasonic -cool mist
Sorry to bother you...but you seem pro.
Thx.
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: Helltick]
#6151219 - 10/09/06 06:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd spawn them to pasteurized horse manure at a rate of 1:15. 1 quart or spawn to 15 quarts of pasteurized horse manure and then left alone for 2 weeks to colonize. See my "Simple Casing Technique" at Topia. http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthread.php?t=13444
Edited by Hotnuts (10/09/06 06:40 PM)
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: Hotnuts]
#6151300 - 10/09/06 06:48 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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sweet mycotopia is back
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HippieChick
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: Helltick]
#6151315 - 10/09/06 06:52 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Helltick said: Wow...what would you do if you were a noob like me with 4-1 quart rye jars almost colonized? I have a Martha type setup (4 tier greenhouse) -ultrasonic -cool mist
Sorry to bother you...but you seem pro.
Thx.
Pics make someone seem like a pro , lol ?
I have a 4 tier green house also
And as I've said . I've spawned over 1,000 pounds of poo so far this year , and I've noticed that a casing layer doesn't really make that much of a difference in yield , to me , cased or uncased with cubes . Casing is optional , with bulk subs .
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: HippieChick]
#6151340 - 10/09/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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A 4 tier greenhouse? lol! That's funny. Cubensis don't need a greenhouse, nor any other artificial enviroments at that. These were sitting on my floor in the great wide open. Nodda as far as artificial enviroments are concerned. I don't want to ruffle feathers here, but cubensis mushrooms are extremely simple to cultivate without greenhouses exc. In fact, I can cultivate cubensis in my sleep.
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HippieChick
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: Hotnuts]
#6151358 - 10/09/06 07:06 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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If they're so simple , why do they need a casing layer ? They don't need a greenhouse are any other artificial conditions , but they need a casing layer .
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: HippieChick]
#6151365 - 10/09/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Because a casing layer provides a micro-climate on the surface of the substrate. It's basic cultivation really.
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HippieChick
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Re: Vote on my Casing layer. [Re: Hotnuts]
#6151377 - 10/09/06 07:12 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I understand basic cultivation . I have to ask where that spawn ratio of 15 to 1 came from ? First time I've ever heard of one that high .
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