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International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage
    #6142517 - 10/07/06 05:35 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

you know that saying.. a picture is worth 1000 words? This was last month's issue. I remember one of the anchors on Fox talking about how great the article was (the US version of course).



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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: kotik]
    #6142521 - 10/07/06 05:43 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Talking about Fox, so many of my friends in france saw how Fox covered the riots in France last year. They called it an "islamist revolution". This kind of misinformation is really scary in reality.

And on a funnier note, when they showed the map of france and the cities where riots had been going on, all the names of the cities were placed at the wrong spots! That was hilarious

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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: exclusive58]
    #6147631 - 10/08/06 07:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)


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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: DieCommie]
    #6149273 - 10/09/06 06:56 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: DieCommie]
    #6149279 - 10/09/06 07:00 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Riots last year? You mean they ended?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/10/05/wmuslims05.xml




didn't take long for this one to go off topic


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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: kotik]
    #6149578 - 10/09/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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you know that saying.. a picture is worth 1000 words? This was last month's issue. I remember one of the anchors on Fox talking about how great the article was (the US version of course).






But, there are two ways to interpret this:
1) The US doesn't like to read bad news about the US

OR

2) The rest of the world LIKES to read bad news about the US

We know that Newsweek isn't above blowing a story WAY out of proportion in order to sell magazines (remember their delightful piece on Meth last summer? http://www.slate.com/id/2123838 ). And we know that many people outside of the US would love to read a story that was blown out of proportion about how US operations in Afghanistan are "t3h sux0rs".

Now, I'm not saying that operations in Afghanistan are going well (though none of non-British troops there seem to be complaining, and there certainly isn't anything even approaching the casualty rate in Iraq, controlled for size of course, which makes one wonder, at least a bit) but does anyone outside the US REALLY want to read about them going anyway but badly?

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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: kotik]
    #6149637 - 10/09/06 10:30 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Newsweak is still around?

I quit reading that rag about 20 years ago.


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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: Economist]
    #6150683 - 10/09/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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But, there are two ways to interpret this:
1) The US doesn't like to read bad news about the US

OR

2) The rest of the world LIKES to read bad news about the US




that would be the difference between NEWS and entertainment, no? And the magazine is called NEWSweek, is it not?


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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: kotik]
    #6150899 - 10/09/06 05:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

News???? :rofl2:

Sad to see what has become of Newsweek....

http://newsbusters.org/node/8184

Time, Newsweek Match TV Pack With Transparently Partisan Foley Scandal Covers

Posted by Tim Graham on October 9, 2006 - 08:48.

In case you thought the Foley story was wrapping up on Friday, be warned that both Time and Newsweek weren't buying that. They wanted a chance to build its place in history/Republican infamy. Both covers are quite transparently partisan for the politically sensitive time of the season. Time has a huge black and white picture of an elephant's butt, with the words: "What a mess...Why a tawdry Washington sex scandal may spell the end of the Republican revolution". Time has been rooting for the end of the Republican revolution since they suggested it was in danger of killing off the "human species" back in the first month of the new GOP-majority congress in 1995.

Newsweek's cover has a huge picture of Foley and the words "Off Message," and the "O" is a computer "emoticon." Cute touch. But Newsweek is very much ON-message this week: they want the Democrats to win both houses. Newsweek has two web exclusives from gay pols: Democrat Barney Frank explains how the "closet" is somewhat responsible for his and Foley's scandals, and gay Republican Brian O'Leary Bennett clucks over how "our party has a history of scapegoating gays and lesbians at the first sign of election trouble." There's Newsweek's idea of balance: a gay Democrat and a gay Republican lashing out at social conservatives.



"Why a tawdry Washington sex scandal may spell the end of the Republican revolution".

Newsweek will do everything that they can to make this happen.

And they will fail again.

Remember last year when Newsweek lied and people died???

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/15/AR2005051500605.html

Newsweek Apologizes
Inaccurate Report on Koran Led to Riots

"...The report, in the issue dated May 9, said U.S. military investigators had found that American interrogators at the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, had flushed a copy of the Koran, the sacred Muslim text, down a toilet...four protesters were killed and more than 60 injured. About a dozen more protesters were killed in the following days when the demonstrations spread across Afghanistan and to Pakistan and other countries..."

Newsweek lied, people died.

No big deal.

Just faceless casualties in the MSM jihad against the illegitimate Bush regime.


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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: kotik]
    #6150947 - 10/09/06 05:15 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Newsweek is far, far, far from being a journal which ANYONE should receive their news from. They and Time have more more towards an "infotainment" design. While they still have great stuff from time to time, there are much more reputable journals out their to read.

That is totally off-topic, though, and I'm not disagreeing with the original post.

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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: kotik]
    #6151142 - 10/09/06 06:13 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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that would be the difference between NEWS and entertainment, no? And the magazine is called NEWSweek, is it not?




Unless Newsweek is suddenly able to survive by not selling issues, they're definitely going to publish stories geared towards what their audience wants to read. Hence, differences in coverage have as much to do with what people in other countries want to read as they do with what the US doesn't want to read.

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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: kotik]
    #6151893 - 10/09/06 09:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I think the editors of newsweek will print whatever will sell to their demographic. American's dont want to think about "losing in afghanistan" (or that is at least what their market team has concluded) - they might cover some sexy scandal, but to actually state that we are losing a war might turn consumers away or spark some sort of controversey that might not profit from. A watered-down cover story about angels or martha stewart or the latest scandal is always a safe business move, while proclaiming US military actions in Afghanistan a failure might be too risky.

The point being: Newsweek does what is best for business, which is extactly Economist's point.

Edited by bi0 (10/09/06 09:17 PM)

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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: lonestar2004]
    #6152006 - 10/09/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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News???? :rofl2:

Sad to see what has become of Newsweek....




Newsweek chooses NOT to say how bad things are in Afghanistan (which is good for the Bush administration), and then your link accuses them of being a liberal publication.  The evidence here indicates the opposite.  As others have said, Newsweek simply prints what they believe will sell the most magazines.


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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #6152402 - 10/09/06 10:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

evidence....????
[url=http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=NWEC&p_theme=nwec&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&s_siteloc=nwsearchmain&p_field_label-0=Edition&s_dispstring=allfields("rejection%20of%20the%20American%20way%20of%20life")%20AND%20date(all)&p_field_advanced-0=&p_text_advanced-0=("rejection%20of%20the%20American%20way%20of%20life"https://files.shroomery.org/files/06-41/045309571-NewsweekAmerica.jpg][/url]

the international edition featured a photo of President Bush with the headline, "America Leads ... But Is Anyone Following?,"https://files.shroomery.org/files/06-41/045309575-NewsweekFlagTrash.jpg][/url]

As you can see, the cover story shows an American flag, dirtied and tossed in a trash can, its staff snapped in two. The large white text reads, "Amerika ga shinda hi", which translates to "The day America died."https://files.shroomery.org/files/06-41/045321829-NewsweekOscar.jpg][/url]

the U.S. edition cover story was an "Oscar Confidential" featuring Hilary Swank, Jamie Foxx and Leonardo DiCaprio.......



It's one thing for Newsweek to actively promote the notion that America is a 'dead,' 'rotting' country overseas....

But why hide it from American readers?????

And If Newsweek really thinks America is dead, and our flag belongs in the trash, why won't it tell us??????


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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: lonestar2004]
    #6152585 - 10/09/06 11:12 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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It's one thing for Newsweek to actively promote the notion that America is a 'dead,' 'rotting' country overseas....

But why hide it from American readers?????

And If Newsweek really thinks America is dead, and our flag belongs in the trash, why won't it tell us??????



Because Newsweek wants to sell magazines. The fact that America has sunk into the toilet is understood internationally, but how many Americans want to hear it?


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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #6153130 - 10/10/06 05:18 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

it's the blind leading the blind around here...

to pass this off as "oh, well they probably wanted to sell more copies" means you are only seeing half of the picture.


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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: kotik]
    #6153662 - 10/10/06 10:28 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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kotik said:
it's the blind leading the blind around here...

to pass this off as "oh, well they probably wanted to sell more copies" means you are only seeing half of the picture.



I actually think you are the one missing half the picture.

Your point about American media not wanting to report negatively about America definitely has merit.

However, you cannot dodge the argument that foreign media WANTS to report negative things about America. The door swings both ways. If you think non-American based media is somehow magically unaffected by a prolific anti-American bias throughout much of the world, it is you who is only seeing half the picture.

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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: Economist]
    #6153704 - 10/10/06 10:43 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)



its not even working. they print this SHIT and people are still begging for American Visas.....


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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: lonestar2004]
    #6153750 - 10/10/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Ya, thats crazy, I don't know why they wouldn't come to Canada instead.


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Re: International Media Coverage vs. America's Coverage [Re: barfightlard]
    #6153805 - 10/10/06 11:14 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Ya, thats crazy, I don't know why they wouldn't come to Canada instead.




If hillary wins in 2008 I could be coming to Canada :smirk:

Prime Minister Harper is a real leader :thumbup:


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