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Is this edible?
    #6022601 - 09/02/06 03:29 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I tried to post here and my post wouldn't show up... I have a bit of brain damage and I may have done something wrong...

Please can you tell me if this is an edible mushroom --

It's quite large, about the size of a paper plate, the salad size. The leaves around it make it look smaller, but the leaves are actually quite large because they are in the shade.



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Re: Is this edible? [Re: ConsiderThis]
    #6022617 - 09/02/06 03:34 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

doesnt look too appetizing. Even if it is edible which i dont think it is.


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Re: Is this edible? [Re: ConsiderThis]
    #6022683 - 09/02/06 04:01 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

All mushrooms are edible, some only once  :smirk:

Doesn't look like any of the gourmet mushrooms I go for.


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Re: Is this edible? [Re: Amatoxin]
    #6022753 - 09/02/06 04:39 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Probly not a good reply to one who has a bit of "brain damage".


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Re: Is this edible? [Re: ConsiderThis]
    #6023069 - 09/02/06 07:24 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Here's a better picture of it...



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Re: Is this edible? [Re: ConsiderThis]
    #6023157 - 09/02/06 08:02 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe a Lactarius.

SOME Lactarius species are edible, but some are poisonous.
For a positive ID you'll need to dig that mushroom up and take photos of the gills. Also, you need to follow these instructions:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5731447/an/0/page/0


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Re: Is this edible? [Re: ConsiderThis]
    #6023161 - 09/02/06 08:03 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

We need to see the underside of the cap more than the top.

See the sticky thread for more information that would help us identify your find. After all, we'd like to make sure we get it right.

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: Is this edible? [Re: ToxicMan]
    #6024385 - 09/03/06 08:40 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, I'm going to dig it up so I can see the stem, but not dig so deeply as to harm the underground mycelium.


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Re: Is this edible? [Re: ConsiderThis]
    #6024393 - 09/03/06 08:45 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

for someone with brain damage you have very good grammer.


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Re: Is this edible? [Re: wortiesbo]
    #6024658 - 09/03/06 11:20 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks wortiesbo --

My brain damage involves loss of processing speed and working memory. It hasn't altered my education level.


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Re: Is this edible? [Re: CureCat]
    #6024674 - 09/03/06 11:25 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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CureCat said:
Maybe a Lactarius.

SOME Lactarius species are edible, but some are poisonous.
For a positive ID you'll need to dig that mushroom up and take photos of the gills. Also, you need to follow these instructions:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5731447/an/0/page/0




Hi CureCat --

It looks very different than I expected, now that I've dug it up. It's very brown and porous inside, so it's not so appetizing to eat as I had anticipated. But it smells totally delicioius!



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Re: Is this edible? [Re: ConsiderThis]
    #6024805 - 09/03/06 12:18 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Well that looks more like an agaricus.


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Re: Is this edible? [Re: ConsiderThis]
    #6024865 - 09/03/06 12:44 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Now we're talking!  :smile:

I was expecting white gills from the first pic.

Kinda looks like the pavement mushroom (Agaricus bitorquis)

http://www.rogersmushrooms.com/gallery/DisplayBlock~bid~5480.asp

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Re: Is this edible? [Re: ConsiderThis]
    #6025624 - 09/03/06 05:27 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Amatoxin is on track as usual.  :smile:

I was also expecting white gills...  Agaricus bitorquis is infact edible, but perhaps let this one go.  Agaricus have many consistent traits throughout the genus, however the cap shape of this specimen is uncommon for Agaricus.

Anyway, pretty mushroom.  i would not dismiss choice edibles simply because the gills (rather than pores- pored mushrooms = boletes) are brown and unappetizing.  If you go about eating mushrooms based on how appetizing they appear, you may one day find yourself in a heap of trouble...  Take the genus of Amanita for example, quite a few tempting mushrooms, and a good number of them deadly toxic.

Just words of caution.  Anyway, happy hunting!


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Re: Is this edible? [Re: Amatoxin]
    #6025670 - 09/03/06 05:42 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Dear Amatoxin and Cure Cat,

Thank you very much!

Is this a pretty sure identification, then...?

I just looked at the spores, and Yes, the spores are chocolate brown.

Gosh, what a beautiful mushroom. I sure hope more come up. I think it was past its prime by the time I picked it.

I just love it. (the mushroom)

thank you for your help, very much.

Is there any way of being sure this is it. I mean, it sure looks like it. And ... apparently it gets brown throughout once it's older... is that right. (it wasn't just the gills that were brown, the interior of the stem was a porous brown and very little of the meat under the cap was still white, it looked as if early on it had been white.

Thank you SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo much!!!!

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Re: Is this edible? [Re: Amatoxin]
    #6025698 - 09/03/06 05:52 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Hi again Amatoxin,
I just realized I forgot to take the cut in half photo.

I've already taken it outside and broken it up in some areas I wish more would come up in the future...

But the inside of the stem was not the lovely white in your image, but a very porous brown.

Does that makes sense? Given it may have been older than I thought...

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Re: Is this edible? [Re: ConsiderThis]
    #6025763 - 09/03/06 06:26 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Agaricus bernardii is frequently mistaken for A. bitorquis, though, A. bernardii should turn a pink colour where cut, and reddish-brown staining or bruising of the top of the cap and the stipe (stem).

Furthermore, it is good to know what state the mushroom was found in...

The substrate (where the mushroom grows from and gets its nutrition) suggests A. bitorquis, as it prefers "heavy" soil, I suppose that means rich and... heavy.

Though, A. bitorquis is said to fruit from mid to late winter. The timing of your mushrooms emergence seems more consistent with A. bernardii, which fruits from Spring through to Fall, but prefers sandy soil and grassy areas.


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Re: Is this edible? [Re: CureCat]
    #6025801 - 09/03/06 06:46 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I'm in New Mexico, and the soil is major heavy... it's clay, mostly.

I checked out the bernardii at a California site, and it said the bernardii smells briney... The mushroom I found didn't smell briney at all. (I'm thinking that "briney" isn't that wonderful mushroom smell.) And the spores were chocolate brown from mine, not blackish brown as suggested would be the case from the bernardii.

So then if a mushroom smells really good and like you'd just so enjoy eating it, does that mean it's likely not poisonous? or can't you count on that?


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Re: Is this edible? [Re: ConsiderThis]
    #6025843 - 09/03/06 07:04 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Can't count on that at all. Many of the deadly species smell great, and reportedly taste awesome too. Suck for the people who found that one out  :smirk:


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Re: Is this edible? [Re: Gumby]
    #6025877 - 09/03/06 07:17 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

From what ive read reported survivors of amanita phalloides said the taste was absolutely delicious, despite the high amounts of poison.

ive also heard that the amatoxins could be cooked or heated out of amanitas' Yet i dont think i'd want to try out that experiment hehe.


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