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ZippoZ
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Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another country?
#6016956 - 08/31/06 10:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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What im talking about here, is a private military of mercenaries, literally taking over a country by force. This would be done in order to install a democracy in a "corrupt" coutry.
what do you think? This would be an interesting turn for warfare, mo longer conducted only by nations, but by comercial industries !
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Re: Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another country? [Re: ZippoZ]
#6016960 - 08/31/06 10:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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we already hire mercenaries as private contarctors in south america, so yes.
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Re: Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another coun [Re: ZippoZ]
#6016961 - 08/31/06 10:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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They may or may not allow it, depending on whether it suits our national interests.
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ZippoZ
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Re: Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another coun [Re: Silversoul]
#6016966 - 08/31/06 10:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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im ont talking about somthing sponsored by the us government, not by any country.
This would be a war thought up, paid for, and executed by private industry.
-------------------- PEACE zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another coun [Re: ZippoZ]
#6016973 - 08/31/06 10:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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like if microsoft took guam? its possible
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Re: Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another coun [Re: roby000]
#6016989 - 08/31/06 10:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah, exactly. i think that its entirely possible, microsoft with its owner, the richest man in the USA bill gates, is the sort of example i was thinking
that corporation has a hell of a lot of power, financially and also has some pull in many other areas as well. It would be entirely possible for them to do this.
What countries do you think could be potential targets for a takeover, and what would they have to offer as a nation?
-------------------- PEACE zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another coun [Re: ZippoZ]
#6016992 - 08/31/06 10:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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cuba for the realestate.
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Re: Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another coun [Re: roby000]
#6017007 - 08/31/06 11:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Maybe.... I am actually for it because a private company might be better at doing such things but they will probably not have to abide by the geneva convention or any other rule.
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Re: Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another coun [Re: ZippoZ]
#6017071 - 08/31/06 11:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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No.
I dont think the federal government would allow its citizens to amass the serious arsenal necessary to invade a country unless they were working for the government (i.e. private contractors). Last I checked, citizens cannot privately own bombs or missiles. If the organization were not citizens and not under U.S. jurisdiction, the federal government would support the organization only if they were aligned either with the ideology of the US or fighting the enemies of the U.S.
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Re: Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another coun [Re: Vvellum]
#6017116 - 08/31/06 11:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Private armies did wonders in Africa. I remember watching a documentary of how small groups of merceneries were able to wipe out rebel camps all by themselves. I don't remember which conflict that was though. And these merceneries were run by western companies by the way.
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Re: Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another coun [Re: Vvellum]
#6017138 - 09/01/06 12:00 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
bi0 said: No.
I dont think the federal government would allow its citizens to amass the serious arsenal necessary to invade a country unless they were working for the government (i.e. private contractors). Last I checked, citizens cannot privately own bombs or missiles. If the organization were not citizens and not under U.S. jurisdiction, the federal government would support the organization only if they were aligned either with the ideology of the US or fighting the enemies of the U.S.
This is a very good point, but you might be missing one thing. Allready in american society, and western society as a whole, these companies allready have great pull in the social and legal realms. They have a LOT of money.
As the all mighty american dollar seems to be king in this society, i would imagine that any Comercial enterprise that wanted to follow the course, and take over a country, could have those laws changed, or bent to their needs.
-------------------- PEACE zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another coun [Re: Silversoul]
#6017506 - 09/01/06 05:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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> They may or may not allow it, depending on whether it suits our national interests.
Exactly. Democracy has nothing to do with it.
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Re: Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another coun [Re: Seuss]
#6018220 - 09/01/06 11:36 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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no not at all, it would just be a false flag and bulshit war cry/excuse to do it
-------------------- PEACE zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another country? [Re: ZippoZ]
#6018294 - 09/01/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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It depends which country the private army invades. If UN troops won't go into the warlord governed African countries to stop genocide, I'm sure a private company could sieze power somewhere. I've always thought a Bill Gates could do something like that. The tricky part would be to organize an armed force without the government getting wind. You'd probably have to conduct the recruiting in secret and ferry recruits to some discreet island to train and organize the coup.
It IS possible.
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ZippoZ
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Re: Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another coun [Re: TODAY]
#6018471 - 09/01/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah, just buy out the mercenearies for a Seciroty mission in a small town in said country, and then start a land war, just moving strategically as a real army would.
in those poor ass african nations, you could definately controll the media enough, so that you could prevent the story of what is actually going on, for quite some time, if not indefinately
wow, i sound like fucking hitler, lol
-------------------- PEACE zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another coun [Re: ZippoZ]
#6018507 - 09/01/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dude, I would take over Panama. That is where it is at.
When Manuel Noreiga makes it out of jail, you know he's taking it back!
Peace.
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Re: Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another coun [Re: Vvellum]
#6018600 - 09/01/06 01:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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ast I checked, citizens cannot privately own bombs or missiles.
International arms dealers deliver to all who pay. A means of delivery is transfer from ship to ship on international waters.
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Re: Do you think that The usa would allow a private military to set up a "democracy" in another coun [Re: Asante]
#6018983 - 09/01/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think we should hire blackwater and other firms to help take over iran.
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