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DnBMiXer
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is Mycellium always white?
#5953439 - 08/11/06 10:30 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I ll post pics later tonight but i have two jars that are either colonizing, contaminated or just have moisture gathering on the glass. its a light brown color (like clumping brf) but it looks like its growing. anyone had this before???
BTW its been more than a week since the jars were knocked up and this the only thing that even look s like it could be myc growth
can anyone give me some insight without pics cause i dont feel like waiting til tonight for answer (impatient i am)
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Edited by DnBMiXer (08/11/06 10:31 AM)
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UnderNose
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Re: is Mycellium always white? [Re: DnBMiXer]
#5953444 - 08/11/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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like a rusty brown to red colour? Does it have any odor
You should have seen myc by now Did you use a LC ?
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creamcorn
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Re: is Mycellium always white? [Re: UnderNose]
#5953450 - 08/11/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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yes, mycelium is always white. it can stain yellowish, if it is experiencing stress and excreting metabolites.
if you see darker brown, and it seems to be growing it could be bacteria... which is what UnderNose is getting at - if you smell anything that didn't smell that way before (especially sweet, sour, rotten, fermented, etc), they're toast.
if there's no smell, you're probably being paranoid. let them be and wait it out to see what happens.
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DnBMiXer
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Re: is Mycellium always white? [Re: creamcorn]
#5953456 - 08/11/06 10:41 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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the only smell is a vermiculite and no i dont see any kind of reddish or dark brown ive seen contam pics of the dark brown mold and doesnt look like that. lets say it might be experiencing "stress" what can I do for that? if nothing now then what can i do in the future to prevent?
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creamcorn
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Re: is Mycellium always white? [Re: DnBMiXer]
#5953471 - 08/11/06 10:52 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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mycelium may excrete metabolites for a few reasons:
1) incubation temps are too high 2) incubation has gone on too long past 100% colonization (not the case here if they're just starting!) 3) they sense an impending contamination, especially a bacterial one.
during colonization, it is normal for some moisture to condense on the inside walls of the jars. perhaps there was some brf stuck there, that has gotten a little gooey on you and that's all you're seeing.
i bet what we have here though is a case of an unexperienced eye and impatience. the best thing you can do, is ignore them for several days and let them do their thing.
impatience is #1 mistake leading to the #2 mistake of trying to fix things when they aren't broken, leading to problems that wouldn't have otherwise happened!
if that's not good enough for you, wait at least until you can give us some good pictures to look at, coz to my knowledge we don't have any mycelium psychics here that can remotely view into your jar.
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Re: is Mycellium always white? [Re: DnBMiXer]
#5953515 - 08/11/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Grain jars inoculated with LC, often start out a very light wispy gray at the inoculation points. Then, turn white, as they get a foothold, and grow.
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DnBMiXer
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Re: is Mycellium always white? [Re: creamcorn]
#5953547 - 08/11/06 11:21 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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lol you are so right i am being impatient sorry cant help it but will post pics tonight
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DnBMiXer
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Re: is Mycellium always white? [Re: Tippinthru]
#5953556 - 08/11/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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actually i guess it is kind of grey but these are brf jars
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creamcorn
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Re: is Mycellium always white? [Re: DnBMiXer]
#5953580 - 08/11/06 11:37 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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healthy cubensis mycelium is _always_ white...
it does have a whispy greyish appearance, when inoculating from LC, in grain, or brf jars. the mycelium itself is not grey though, it is still white. its just not very thick, and you're seeing through it to the substrate behind it. once it thickens up it appears brilliant white, but it was that color all the time, only once it thickens are you noticing it - it certainly doesn't change colors. LC has more "contact points" and thus starts growing over a larger area when it gets started, so its stretched thinner, and you can see through it at first. when starting from spores, you should see clearly white round "fuzzballs" where they germinate and it will move outward from there.
lets not confuse the issue
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DnBMiXer
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Re: is Mycellium always white? [Re: creamcorn]
#5953589 - 08/11/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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see thats why i was asking thats what it looks like only the jars were knock up straight from a siringe not a lc
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tonyperez420
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Re: is Mycellium always white? [Re: DnBMiXer]
#5954540 - 08/11/06 05:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
DnBMiXer said: I ll post pics later tonight but i have two jars that are either colonizing, contaminated or just have moisture gathering on the glass. its a light brown color (like clumping brf) but it looks like its growing. anyone had this before???
BTW its been more than a week since the jars were knocked up and this the only thing that even look s like it could be myc growth
can anyone give me some insight without pics cause i dont feel like waiting til tonight for answer (impatient i am)
SPAWN is what is in your jar not mycelium
It is usually white, sometimes light grey... could piss yellow, but you dont want that
You prob got a contam, sorry to be the bringer of bad news
GL next time
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DnBMiXer
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Re: is Mycellium always white? [Re: tonyperez420]
#5957583 - 08/12/06 08:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok I know it took a while to get these pictures up but here they are finally. Also I know that some of the pics look like mycellium growing but its more glare than anything most of the jar looks like the last pic the one of the bottom of the jar. (its just a lot thicker in the bottom than on the sides....
can anyone tell me what i got here, is it a contaminate, water brf clumps, or a thin layer of mycellium.
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Re: is Mycellium always white? [Re: DnBMiXer]
#5957895 - 08/12/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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that dont look right. Try posting it in the contam forum for some definitive answers..
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Re: is Mycellium always white? [Re: Yamidude]
#5958170 - 08/13/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Any smells?
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