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 MLB standings 
#5936229 - 08/06/06 05:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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no one has been posting about baseball.. so fuck it.. its 7am and im bored
AL East: Yankees (65-42) then Red Sox (65-44)
AL Central: Detriot (74-36)
AL West: Oakland (59-51)
NL East: Mets (65-44)
NL Central: St. Louis (59-50) then Cincinnatti (57-53)
NL West: San Diego (57-53) then Dodgers (55-55)
Detriot looks pretty well in control on the American League right now.. i dont think anyone will catch em
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Re: MLB standings [Re: Banez]
#5937428 - 08/06/06 03:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Where's the wild card, dude? Forget the NL, whoever comes out of that is gonna suck, the whole league has turned into the IL. The AL West is likewise of virtually no interest, they all suck pretty bad. So we got 5 teams for 3 spots (Toronto has officially shit the bed).
I think the Twinkies made an absolutely hellacious run to get close but they have no more. Too much energy spent. They will fade.
Red Sox are now getting a tiny taste of the Yankee injury flu but cannot come close to surviving it like the Yanks did. Yanks get Abreu, Sox get Lopez. And then Mirabelli goes down. This is not to mention the ongoing pitching shell game there. They have two reliable pitchers, Schilling and Papelbon, who fucked up today. That's it. Kudos to them for hanging in there.
White Sox got career years from several pitchers last year. Several. They aint getting that this year. They did improve their O, but sacrificed D to do it (Rowand was a very good CF).
There will be only one pair of Sox in the drawer this year and I pick...........White ones. Although degraded, they still have better pitching than the Beantown Bozos. Much better.
Playoffs.
Yanks top Sox and Detroit and then Mets or Cards (or Houston, I haven't given up on their shot at the WC but, hey, who cares). The only team that can match the Yanks for pitching is the Twinkies and I think they don't have the energy left to finish. Good effort though.
Of course, all bets are off in a short series, but I like Yankee chances more than anybody else's. More so than the last few years. This year has kind of a 1998 confidence, which is the only time I ever thought it was a done deal going in to the playoffs.
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yeah thatd def wasnt a complte listing of the standings.. i didnt have that much time on my hands.. i just wanted to post the top team or two from each division..
give people who havent been paying attention an idea of who is leading
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Re: MLB standings [Re: Banez]
#5937795 - 08/06/06 05:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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GD mariners, they were in contention in the AL West a couple weeks ago staying around 500...they just lost a 3 game series against the A's, They cant seem to do anything in timely fashion..always seem to have 2 outs ..ARGHGHGH, Big Ritchie Suxen batting 220's striking out left and right..made a joke about how if he had to rush the mound and get in a fight he'd throw 3 punches and strike out...thats just how he do with the millions he makes, Yuni's awsome(cept a HORRIBLE base runner)..Kenji is sick..JJ Putz is good..Jose is alright..thats pretty much it tho. They are the States team however so ya know..gotta watch em 
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there's still two months left to play...
I don't know about detroit, but the White Sox, Yankees and Red Sox better play well. The Twins aren't going away. Good pitching can carry them a long way.
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You really think the Yankees will put it off? You sound very confident of that.
Dont get me wrong, I could see it going either way, but I still think the White Sox are the better team. Yes, the Yankees have 2 superstars that they're getting back in a few weeks, but still, I have to say good pitching beats a good offense.
And even though they havent had the years they had last year, the White Sox pitching is still better than the Yanks.
Buehrle vs. Johnson
Garcia vs. Mussina
Conteras vs. Wang
Garland vs. Lidle
Vasquez vs. Wright
I would say Johnson and Buehrle is a wash. Neither is pitching worth a damn. Buehrle is really stinking it up lately. But the thing is, Johnson has been pitching shitty all year. Buehrle started off HOT, its just lately that he's sucked. I have confidence Buehrle will find his stride again, while Johnson looks done.
The rest of the Yanks rotation is hardly scary, with the exception of Wang. The Lidle/Abreau trade was an absolute STEAL. (Does anyone actually know the details? Did Cashman throw in his firstborn to get this done?)
I would take any of the White Sox pitchers over the Yanks. Garland is getting hot again, Contreras is a proven post-season killer, and the way he pitched last year/beginning of this year is scary. Probably some of the most dominant pitching I've seen. Vasquez makes me nervous in the late innings, but if he gets ahold of himself, he's mowing them down too.
Offensively, the Yanks have pop, no doubt about it. I cant make a disparraging remark about those hitters. But make no mistakes, the white sox can hit too. I dont really see a loss in defense with the Rowand trade. I'm more worried about the offensive drop. Brian Anderson is a very good center fielder. Better than rowand, possibly. But his bat was shitty at the beginning of the year, even though its picking up now.
I dont see how anyone could say the Yanks are a better defensive club. They simply arent. Postionally, I would take any of the White Sox infielders over the Yanks.
So yeah, I agree that the White Sox and Yanks are far superior to the other AL clubs, but I dont agree that the Yanks are better.
The White Sox still have the 3rd best record in baseball. I wouldnt count on them getting the wildcard either. Its still possible to beat the Tigers. Last year at this time, everyon ehad the Sox penciled in as the Central winner, and it came down the wire in the last few weeks. Lots of baseball to be played still.
We'll see in this upcoming series. The Yanks killed them last time. Garcia v. Wang tomorrow.
PS. I am a Cubs fan. I do not like the White Sox. At All. I think they are a Shitty Team with Shitty Fans from a Shitty part of an Awesome City.
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Quote:
Madtowntripper said:
You really think the Yankees will put it off? You sound very confident of that.
I definitely peg them as the favorite. But that always goes with the "short series" caveat. Like I said above, the only time I ever thought somebody was a lock was in '98Quote:
Dont get me wrong, I could see it going either way, but I still think the White Sox are the better team. Yes, the Yankees have 2 superstars that they're getting back in a few weeks, but still, I have to say good pitching beats a good offense.
Yes, you gotta have pitching for sure, but this lineup doesn't hurt at all:
Damon
Jeter
Abreu (just look at the OB for these guys and the number of pitches they draw)
Rodriguez (You know it's gonna end)
Giambi
Sheffield (Another pair of pitch eaters)
Matsui (THIS is the number 7 hitter?)
Posada
Cano
That, my friend is very, very impressive. Opponent's pitch count should reach 100 in the 5th inning every time. That is tough to overcome. And then comes the feast.Quote:
And even though they havent had the years they had last year, the White Sox pitching is still better than the Yanks.
Buehrle vs. Johnson
Buehrle has been absolute shit for 6 of his last 7. I mean total shit. Overall 9-10 4.86, 1.39. Not good. Johnson last 10 starts-2 awful, 1 mediocre, 7 quality. 11-9, 5.11, 1.28. I'm sorry but RJ gets the edge on trend and history. And neither of these guys is gonna see game 1 except from the bench
Garcia vs. Mussina
Garcia 10-7, 4.87, 1.40 vs Mussina 13-4, 3.46, 1.07. Big edge Yanks. Mussina's best year in NY and he is looking seriously ready. Garcia is regressing towards his mean
Conteras vs. Wang
I'll wash these guys although of late Wang has been better
Garland vs. Lidle
Garland has an exemplary W-L but ERA and WHIP suck. Lidle? Who knows. First one I'll give you, but it aint no sure thing.
Vasquez vs. Wright
Vasquez plus 5 ERA with lately shit efforts. Wright almost a full point lower ERA but very erratic of late. Edge Yanks.
I do not see a WS edge in starting pitching. At all. Which is why they are scrambling for a spot (which I think they will get, RS out, if they can hold off the Twins who now have Liriano issues). Bullpen? fuggedaboutit. Yanks own it. In descending order Rivera, Procter, Farnsworth, Villone/Myers lefty specialist. Anything with Jenks at the top can't be that good, especially with 20 walks in 50 innings. The Yanks will kill you for that. And they will be busy.Quote:
I would say Johnson and Buehrle is a wash. Neither is pitching worth a damn. Buehrle is really stinking it up lately. But the thing is, Johnson has been pitching shitty all year. Buehrle started off HOT, its just lately that he's sucked. I have confidence Buehrle will find his stride again, while Johnson looks done.
The rest of the Yanks rotation is hardly scary, with the exception of Wang. The Lidle/Abreau trade was an absolute STEAL. (Does anyone actually know the details? Did Cashman throw in his firstborn to get this done?)
No, I threw in mine. She was pissed but she took it for the team. (her record at Yankee games is an unblemished 7-0). She can still watch from Philly. What a trooper.Quote:
I would take any of the White Sox pitchers over the Yanks. Garland is getting hot again, Contreras is a proven post-season killer, and the way he pitched last year/beginning of this year is scary. Probably some of the most dominant pitching I've seen. Vasquez makes me nervous in the late innings, but if he gets ahold of himself, he's mowing them down too.
Well, you know I think you're crazy but, then again, both of us have spent a great deal of time thinking and typing about this nonsense so who are we to say what's crazy. When the Yanks meet the Sox in the playoffs, and I think that's what will happen look for Wang and Mussina to be the two best pitchers and the WS bullpen to get a lot of work. Except for Jenks. He'll be a spectator.Quote:
Offensively, the Yanks have pop, no doubt about it. I cant make a disparraging remark about those hitters. But make no mistakes, the white sox can hit too. I dont really see a loss in defense with the Rowand trade. I'm more worried about the offensive drop. Brian Anderson is a very good center fielder. Better than rowand, possibly. But his bat was shitty at the beginning of the year, even though its picking up now.
It's not just the pop. It's the plate discipline and OBP that kills and these guys are reminiscent of the best Yankee teams at that. Plus the pop. Ok, I didn't know about Anderson. I did know Rowand was a very good 5 tool guy though and a big loss to trade for a unidimensional slugger. I would not have made the trade.Quote:
I dont see how anyone could say the Yanks are a better defensive club. They simply arent. Postionally, I would take any of the White Sox infielders over the Yanks.
I assume you mean "defensively". WS have got small edges at 3 spots, big at 1. I'll take Posada over AJ. Hell, except for catcher, they probably have a D edge everywhere.Quote:
So yeah, I agree that the White Sox and Yanks are far superior to the other AL clubs, but I dont agree that the Yanks are better.
The White Sox still have the 3rd best record in baseball. I wouldnt count on them getting the wildcard either. Its still possible to beat the Tigers. Last year at this time, everyon ehad the Sox penciled in as the Central winner, and it came down the wire in the last few weeks. Lots of baseball to be played still.
We'll see in this upcoming series. The Yanks killed them last time. Garcia v. Wang tomorrow.
PS. I am a Cubs fan. I do not like the White Sox. At All. I think they are a Shitty Team with Shitty Fans from a Shitty part of an Awesome City.
For a non-Sox fan you did a pretty good job of making a case. At least as good as I could have done. Detroit does not scare me at all. The Twins do IF they have Santana and Liriano, but I think they got too far behind and spent too much energy and luck to get back in it. Watch out for them next year. Mauer, Morneau and Liriano are gonna be gods and Santana and Nathan already are (psst, keep it under your hat but Joe Nathan is the current guy who is going to come closest to being Rivera).
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That was a helluva game.
I thought for sure the Sox were fucked when Fatty Jenks threw that ball away. That wasnt even close!
At least Mo got that blown save out of the way. I doubt he'll let Paulie do that again.
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I don't think Paulie will see another outside pitch from Mo for the rest of his career.
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