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p0ng
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How 9/11 was set up by the US Government
#5921264 - 08/01/06 08:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1519312457137943386&q=loose+change
Check out this documentary. It is about an hour and a half long and questions just about every aspest of 9/11. It shows how the US government set up 9/11 to make some money and to create fear.
I didnt believe it before I watched it. Now I am a true believer.
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: p0ng]
#5921269 - 08/01/06 08:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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OMG
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Boom]
#5921281 - 08/01/06 09:03 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Edited by UnderNose (08/01/06 09:07 AM)
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: p0ng]
#5921283 - 08/01/06 09:06 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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That video has been so thoroughly debunked by so many different people I'm surprised they bothered to make a "Second Edition".
There are hundreds of websites shredding pretty much every point made in that ridiculous piece of nonsense, but here's one of the more comprehensive ones -- http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Phred]
#5921284 - 08/01/06 09:08 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Have you seen the second edition? okay then
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: p0ng]
#5921291 - 08/01/06 09:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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patriot theory anyone?
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Phred]
#5921296 - 08/01/06 09:21 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Edited by Corporal Kielbasa (08/01/06 09:48 AM)
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: p0ng]
#5921302 - 08/01/06 09:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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p0ng said: It shows how the US government set up 9/11 to make some money and to create fear.
I didnt believe it before I watched it. Now I am a true believer.
I've got to say, I've seen this already and am quite unconvinced... I just don't believe everything I see/read/hear...
:tinfoilhat:
With that being said, I commend you for posting something that might be unpopular in your own personal search for truth. We need people out there questioning whether what the government, media, corporations, and even the common man say is true, however, we also need to work on our critical thinking skills and demand proof for unsubstantiated claims...
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: p0ng]
#5921307 - 08/01/06 09:26 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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A bunch of my friends told me about that video and told me to watch it. They then proceeded to tell me all of the shit in it. Now don't get me wrong, I am very, very skeptical of our government's "explanation" of what happened. I know something fishy went down, but the way my friends talked about the shit in the Loose Change video made me laugh. Really hard. So now I don't even feel like wasting an hour to watch that BS.
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How can they debunk it? The video clips and footage seem to speak for themselves.
Click the link I provided and read just the first page of it. Then you'll know.
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Phred]
#5921316 - 08/01/06 09:29 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I bet Chuck Norris could get to the bottom of this.
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: p0ng]
#5921323 - 08/01/06 09:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Have you seen the second edition? okay then
The link I provided debunks the Second Edition.
Don't feel bad you got sucked in by the video. If you are unaware of the actual facts of the situation and rely on nothing other than what is presented in the video -- accepting it all as unvarnished and complete truth -- then of course you will come away with the impression that some evil nefarious government scheme had been perpetrated on the American people. It's not until you bother to check out their absurd claims (which is very easy to do, although sometimes time consuming) that the whole house of cards collapses. If you don't have all the data, you can't come to the right conclusions. And the makers of the video had no interest in providing all the data. If they did, no one would watch their video.
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Phred]
#5921349 - 08/01/06 09:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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So what makes you think you have the right "facts". Were you there?
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: VoidOfsPg]
#5921358 - 08/01/06 09:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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No but supposedly the person that wrote this guide did. . ..... But who is to know the credibility of that......
It is convincing though.
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: VoidOfsPg]
#5921365 - 08/01/06 10:01 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Were the makers of the video there?
I find it amusing how many people will invest the time to download and watch a ninety minute (or whatever length it is) video but won't make the effort to click a link with exhaustively detailed point by point rebuttals from multiple credible sources. You can read the website at the link I provided in less time than it takes to watch the video.
But -- as I pointed out already -- that particular website is far from the only one which debunks the video. It is possible to spend days thoroughly checking out all the various links and links to links on sites which focus more exhaustively on specific parts of the conspiracy theories.
Do you want to know what really happened or don't you? If you don't it's no skin off my nose. But to rely on that laughably inept piece of propagandist trash as your sole source of "facts" for what happened that day shows a susceptibility to brainwashing so severe as to be self-enabling.
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: p0ng]
#5921465 - 08/01/06 10:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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-------------------- “People say having kids is life changing, well that doesn’t necessarily mean a good thing, does it? I could take one of my legs off. That would change my life.” -Karl Pilkington
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: p0ng]
#5921486 - 08/01/06 11:00 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Read - Crossing the Rubicon by Mike Ruppert
He is an ex-LAPD drug investigator who goes through 911 in a scientific fashion, I've just begun to read the book and I'm blown away by his claims and his research. Summary below...
Michael Ruppert is an Honors graduate of UCLA in Political Science and a former LAPD narcotics investigator who discovered CIA trafficking in drugs in 1977. After attempting to expose this he was forced out of LAPD in 1978. In 1996, after 18 years of being a “voice crying in the wilderness” he managed to have a face to face public encounter with then CIA Director John Deutch on national television - the CIA director had gone to Watts to respond to community uproar about the Cocaine Importation Agency ...
Crossing the Rubicon: the Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil by Michael C. Ruppert is a detective story that gets to the innermost core of the 9/11 attacks. It places 9/11 at the center of a desperate new America, created by specific, named individuals in preparation for Peak Oil: an economic crisis like nothing the world has ever seen.
The attacks of September 11th, 2001 were accomplished through an amazing orchestration of logistics and personnel. Crossing the Rubicon discovers and identifies the key suspects and persons of interest -- finding some of them in the highest echelons of American government -- by showing how they acted in concert to guarantee that the attacks occurred and produced the desired result.
In describing the contents of the book he has spent two and a half years researching and writing Ruppert said:
"In my new book I will be making several key points:
1. I will name Richard Cheney as the prime suspect in the mass murders of 9/11 and will establish that, not only was he a planner in the attacks, but also that on the day of the attacks he was running a completely separate Command, Control and Communications system which was superceding any orders being issued by the NMCC [National Military Command Center], or the White House Situation Room. 2. I will establish conclusively that in May of 2001, by presidential order, Richard Cheney was put in direct command and control of all wargame and field exercise training and scheduling through several agencies, especially FEMA. This also extended to all of the conflicting and overlapping NORAD drills on that day. 3. I will also demonstrate that the TRIPOD II exercise being set up on Sept. 10th in Manhattan was directly connected to Cheney's role. 4. I will also prove conclusively that a number of public officials, at the national and New York City levels, including then Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, were aware that Flight 175 was en route to lower Manhattan for 20 minutes and did nothing to order the evacuation of or warn the occupants of the South Tower. One military officer was forced to leave his post in the middle of the attacks and place a private call to his brother -- who worked at the WTC -- warning him to get out. That was because no other part of the system was taking action. 5. I will also show that the Israeli and British governments acted as partners with the highest levels of the American government to help in the preparation and, very possibly, the actual execution of the attacks."
"There is more reason to be afraid of not facing the evidence in this book than of facing what is in it."
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
#5921617 - 08/01/06 11:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You won't, fucking idiots.
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: robbyberto]
#5921635 - 08/01/06 11:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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People are given information on a need to know basis, this is the foundation of covert operations.
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Re: How 9/11 was set up by the US Government [Re: Phred]
#5921677 - 08/01/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Phred said: That video has been so thoroughly debunked by so many different people I'm surprised they bothered to make a "Second Edition".
There are hundreds of websites shredding pretty much every point made in that ridiculous piece of nonsense, but here's one of the more comprehensive ones -- http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html
Phred
thats an awesome site thanks
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