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Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" * 3
    #5909750 -

Ok... seen results, gonna try it myself.

simply hydrating coir, no pc'n or pasturizing.
each brick of coir holds 1 gal of warm water.


lined inside of trays with foil (extra long heavy duty) :thumbup:


each coir brick makes about 2 trays. I spawned 1 qt. per tray, and placed 1/2 qt on top to colonize the top layer first. (to aid as a contam barrier)

Look at the dates... these jars were only 11 days old during spawning. :eek: 


Time for the spawn run... I actually made 8


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Spawning to COIR
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Edited by Oatman2000 (09/11/06 10:25 AM)

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5909761 -

did you add anything to the coir?

for it's low ph?
for it's low nitrogen content?


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" [Re: monstermitch]
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ooo I want to see this!

I think I might try a 50/50 spawn/coir mix in impulse sealed boxes soon.

I remember reading that coir was a 'one flush wonder' in someone's grow log.


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Edited by Capless (07/28/06 06:51 PM)

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" [Re: Capless]
    #5914700 -

it's best to use blood meal or coffee to up the nitrogen content, because coir doesn't have much nitrogen to begin with.


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" [Re: liamtheloser]
    #5914951 -

so can you explain the process a bit more? I would love to learn how to do this especially when you dont need to sterilize/pasteurize

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" [Re: Leanin]
    #5916063 -

nothing added to the coir... learned from an old hand that coir is all you need, and is a substitute to poo. We are all about to be the judge of that here pretty soon.


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Spawning to COIR
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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" [Re: Oatman2000]
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where is RR's opinion on this i would love to hear it

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5916092 -

these were made July 25-27

it's now 7-30 and here's the growth thus far.
here is what they all look like with the foil on top. MicoPore tape over the holes.










the coir is very agressive... but we'll wait and see what happens when pinning is triggered. these will sit for a while longer before they are cased.


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" [Re: Oatman2000]
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old hand


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" [Re: monstermitch]
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should have added something... but i didn't. So here we'll see what comes up? i got some tnn stud coming. But i have been waiting for over 2 weeks and it hasn't showed up. :frown:


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5955871 -

Update time... All casings have been "patched" and placed into the FC.





Enjoy! :wink::thumbup:


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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Looking very nice.

My "coir bags" failed like no other. I got up to find a ton of green mold on one, and the other stalled most likely fighting contams. Oh well our prep method was slopppy among other things. I might try it again later. If I do it will be in a monotub like yours.


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Capless]
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had to take one out due to a little spot of funk. I have it isolated in another room.


-my tubs are not monotubs. Just some deep ass casing trays. They go inside a greenhouse.


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5969714 -

UPDATE PICS





2 have been removed and isolated due to contams... seems that a few have already started to fruit. Seems kinda early, with no even pinset. :frown:


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5969924 -

sorry to hear about you loosing another tray. the others look alright though (besides the pinset of course)


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: itsbreck]
    #5972528 -

pinset is looking better... checked em this morning, (no time to take pics)

But looks good! Looks like every tray has lots of pins on them.

Hope this log is good. (will check dry weight with weight of straight cased trays)  :grin:


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Spawning to COIR
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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5972537 -

:popcorn:

keep em coming.

excellent work.


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: monstermitch]
    #5972547 -

right after this i have 8 of the same 12 qt. sweater boxes colonizing with Tenn Stud.  Should be casing them anyday now.

Will post pics of the new pinset after work :wink::thumbup:


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5972555 -

sweet. im gonna try spawning about 10 qts. wbs to coir soon, the WBS is just laying around ready to fruit...but nothing to mix it with ATM.

i think i'll go pick up a couple bricks of coir


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: itsbreck]
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your gonna need more than a couple bricks of COIR.

Each Bed-a-Beast brick holds 1 gal. water.

Each brick will make 2 - 12qt. sweater box casings.

if you are spawning 10 jars, I recomend making 8 casings, and use some from the 2 leftover jars as a top layer. To aid as a contam barrier.


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5973351 -

its sold by the sq. foot at my local garden store... i'll just pick up a few feet...and i use ALOT of spawn


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: itsbreck]
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cool... i don't have that luxury.
Love to see some other grow logs..... :wink:

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5973820 -


UPDATE

HERE'S WHAT THE PINS ARE LOOKING LIKE.





THEY ARE PRETTY FAT... LET'S SEE EM' ALL BE LIKE THAT :wink::thumbup:


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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Daaaamn, I can't believe that's just coir!


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: wiggles]
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I can't wait to see this finish. I also can't wait to know what potency is like from a straight coir grow


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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Cool oatman, :thumbup:

I'm kinda stuck with coir or cased grain, so I would be interested in how the potency and yield is flush to flush compared with h/poo
We all know poo is priceless.:glittershitz:
But a good substitutes would be good.

Did you use any kind of additives in the coir.??


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Edited by UnderNose (08/18/06 07:20 AM)

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: UnderNose]
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no additives... just straight up hydrted COIR.


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5975930 -

uhmm the potency will be weakened if anything by coir , its got little to no nutritional value to the cubensis , its simply ground coconut shell , coir is used as a casing layer not a substrate , thats ridiculus , waste..


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: PSiFr33k]
    #5976850 -

It think its good to see some experimentation - especially since you can compare it to his other grow.

Good shit Oatman!

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Feelers]
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i'll be the judge on potency.... and i will also report.


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Spawning to COIR
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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: PSiFr33k]
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PSiFr33k said:
uhmm the potency will be weakened if anything by coir , its got little to no nutritional value to the cubensis , its simply ground coconut shell , coir is used as a casing layer not a substrate , thats ridiculus , waste..


This has been proven before, but its HARDLY a waste of time OR effort - lots of people who want to do a small hobby grow in the city can't get poo easily, or can't be bothered.

Coir is a great alternative for these people, and if you add a few nutes (hydrate the coir with seaweed extract or worm castings) then your cooking with gas.


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: PSiFr33k]
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PSiFr33k said:
uhmm the potency will be weakened if anything by coir , its got little to no nutritional value to the cubensis , its simply ground coconut shell , coir is used as a casing layer not a substrate , thats ridiculus , waste..


Wrong. That's nonesense. Coir is as nutritious as horse manure, and is not suitable for use as a casing layer due to the nutrition unless massively diluted with vermiculite. That's why coir casings overlay so often. Coir is far better suited as a substrate, and there is not one single shred of evidence that coir does not deliver superior potency in cubensis.
RR


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: RogerRabbit]
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i've never had issues with potency on coir... flush after flush... its consistent with an isolate, and inconsistent with multispore... like pretty much anything else :smile: its my preferred substrate.  the only down side to coir is your fruits take forever to dehydrate because they're so damned big. :smile:

nice grow :thumbup:  glad to see somebody post something proper while using coir because theres some confusion about it and frankly it seems underrated :smile:  i'm confident you'll agree when you get to trying some of those :wink:


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: creamcorn]
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Wait till you see what pop'd up from this!

got pics, late for work... will have to upload after.


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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my guess is the coir is going to trump the wbs.


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: monstermitch] * 1
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UPDATE





GOT SOME PRETTY HUGE FRUITS FOR THE 1ST FLUSH....



IMO - COIR = GOODNESS

ENJOY!  :wink::thumbup:


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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we have a winner.


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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How do you incubate those large casings? In the greenhouse without humidity and light?

Also, how does that foil work for you? Any signs of it getting eaten?

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Cubenisseur]
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he smartly allows his trays to colonize on open shelving without any incubation.


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: monstermitch]
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Thanks Mitch... 

Nope, I believe that for Mycellium to burn throgh aluminum, it's gonna hafft be sitting in there for a real long time. Using aluminum foil in the bottom of casing trays is a must for me now. The foil sticks to mycellum and pulls back when the casing layers shrink. Keeps side pinning down.



I have also found out that Aluminum foil will keep any light out, to also keep side pinning down to almost none. Get the long rolls :wink:


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5983855 -

I've had it do that to a pan in one flush.
depends I guess on the strain.


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: PSiFr33k]
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PSiFr33k said:
uhmm the potency will be weakened if anything by coir , its got little to no nutritional value to the cubensis , its simply ground coconut shell , coir is used as a casing layer not a substrate , thats ridiculus , waste..


PSiFr33k
So tell me how does that Crow taste? :wink:



Great job Oat! great indeed!


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: YESSUP]
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I can almost guarantee there is more in the coir than in cased wbs.
(lets just say this is the 2nd time i filled my dehydrator, and i'm not done.)


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Spawning to COIR
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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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anyone else care to tell this man that coir is junk?

a waste?


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: monstermitch]
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Good god, is it wrong that those grow pics make me want to masturbate?

Oatman, I'd love for you to write a tek on this! And I'd also like an update on the potency as well.

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Lily_Morgan]
    #5983929 -

Nice job oatman. Those look great!  Just because I can't resist rubbing it in a bit, I'd like to show I've been recommending coir here http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/2521776#Post2521776  for a couple of years now, but was preaching coir as a substrate for a long time prior to that over at the 'other' site.  People still seem to think coir as a substrate material is new...  :shocked:
RR

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: RogerRabbit]
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I've read your stuff RR, and I give you mad props honey  :handth:

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Lily_Morgan]
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RR it is because of you and Agar that i did this grow...

Give yourself a pat on the back, because it works great. I will update with potency, we'll see about the weight.


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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There FUCKING HUGE, Holly shit,

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: geko127]
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im definetly doing that

did u sterilize it at all?

everyone has just gave u crap about potency...bleh they will be good1!

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Leanin]
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kicks the shit outta my little verm/peat 50/50 :frown:

I just need to find somewhere to get some coco coir :smile:


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Cepheus]
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COIR used....


BED-A-BEAST

no sterilazation, no pasturization.... just added hot water. Each brick is about $5. Individually wrapped. and will hold 1 gal. of hot water.

Each brick will make 2 casings. This stuff is great!


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Spawning to COIR
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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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same stuff I get

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: mskip23]
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now that you have seen results is there anything you wish you might have done differently from the get go? Such as soaking in coffee or anything like that to increase nitro levels in the coir? Beautiful job again man. I can't wait to try this strain out. I've heard nothing but good behind it.

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: TrippinTeddy]
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I would add coffee grounds to the substrate...

I have noticed small spots of Trich on about 3 casings... Seems maybee i should have pasturized it. (catching up to me)

but other than that the casing look like they are older then they should look. (more depleted)

(possibly maybee a dunk might help this... but i'm not gonna.


I have poo going in soon... mixing up casing now.


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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Cool.
On average, how long do those casings take to fully colonize for you?

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Cepheus]
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aManEater said:
kicks the shit outta my little verm/peat 50/50 :frown:

I just need to find somewhere to get some coco coir :smile:


You can order it by the brick or bale for pretty cheap from one of the shroomery vendors, although I can't remember which one.  I believe it's Medium Mania.

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Lily_Morgan]
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about 10 days...

:mypleasure:

FINAL: 327.5G


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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Thanks.

Good show!!

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Oatman2000 said:
about 10 days...

:mypleasure:

FINAL: 327.5G



DRY???

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Psilopleix]
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yup


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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i didnt see the size of the tubs in here so what size are they i am guessing 12 quart right ?


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: xaxphaanes]
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yes... 12 qt sweater boxes from Wal-Mart


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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awesome demonstration of a rez-effect variant
here's similar done
with texans on popcorn with vermiculite

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faht's grow log


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: RogerRabbit]
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RogerRabbit said:
PSiFr33k said:
uhmm the potency will be weakened if anything by coir , its got little to no nutritional value to the cubensis , its simply ground coconut shell , coir is used as a casing layer not a substrate , thats ridiculus , waste..


Wrong. That's nonesense. Coir is as nutritious as horse manure, and is not suitable for use as a casing layer due to the nutrition unless massively diluted with vermiculite.
RR


That's news to me...source??
I can see coir grown shrooms matching (or slightly exceeding) potency of PF grown fruits...but there is no chance in hell coir is as nutritious as horse shite.
50/50 50/40 coir/verm casing has always done wonders for me also.

Edited by Plutonium (08/25/06 08:47 PM)

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Tien]
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....:::::TRIP REPORT::::::....

ALL I CAN SAY IS OUT OF THIS WORLD! :eek:

I ATE 2.5G AND SO DID 8 OTHER PEOPLE LAST NIGHT. I HAD A GREAT TIME WITH THE VISUALS THAT I GET FROM THE T.C.

I SEE NO POTENCY LOSS WITH COIR.

"THAT'S MY FINAL ANSWER"  :wink::thumbup:


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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WOW thats good to hear.

I wonder if potency is less though with the following flushes.

Could coir be used in a mono tub grow?

Those massive fruits have got me wanting to do a straight coir grow for sure


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: TrippinTeddy]
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i would say coir could be substituted for the poo in any shape, size and form. I would say that the monotub would work... (but monotubs and doubletubs have never worked for me.They always end up getting contamed before the first flush. IME)

I am gonna try to pasturize the coir next time... got spots of Trich forming.


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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Nice to hear it worked for you. Coir for me has always been a small scale thing, but never anything big. I think my next grow I will go 50/50 coir / hpoo and see how that goes.

I get some off brand coir from a local place. 3 bricks for $3.99 can't beat that.....

except hpoo = free :smile:


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Tien]
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Plutonium said:
I can see coir grown shrooms matching (or slightly exceeding) potency of PF grown fruits...but there is no chance in hell coir is as nutritious as horse shite.



Perhaps since you're the one disputing the facts as presented by actual experience, YOU can provide the source. The fact of the matter is, bagged up cow manure is even more nutritious than horse manure. Mushroom growers like horse manure for its texture, not the nutrients. Grains are the most nutritious of all, but there is no evidence that simple cased rye is more potent than rye spawned into manure. The whole nute/substrate thing is poorly understood.

The bottom line is plain coir makes an excellent substrate. It can be made even better by adding manure, worm castings, coffee grinds, cotton seed hulls, straw, etc.
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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: RogerRabbit]
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how much worm casing / coffee grinds would you suggest Roger?

Oh and Oatman. I have used Critter Country with coir with good results.

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Babo911]
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There's no rules for how much worm castings or coffee grinds to use. Any can be used as substrate, so just mix in whatever proportions you have. Be sure to check and balance ph.
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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: RogerRabbit]
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That's something i don't have and wish I did...

Ph testing, either with strips (or I would like a actual gauge)


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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for anyone who wanted a Tek on how to do this... it has been added to the cultivation archives

you can find it Here


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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Wow, this is pretty amazing to me. Great grow.

I'm returning to growing after a few years off, and catching up to the latest developments. The idea of using coir as a substrate rather than a casing is totally new to me. I've used coir as a casing many times, and always thought it kicked ass. I can't remember a single contam problem with it. (And I'm not a sterility-overkill grower, so if coir is nutritious, it must have some contam-restistant properties!) It never occurred to me that it had any nutritional value as a substrate. Manure is tough to come by in my area (in manageable amounts anyway) so it's pretty sweet if this really makes a good replacement.

I have spores on the way for my triumphant return to cultivation. Pan cyan and some South American cubensis. Think the cyans will work on coir? I guess I'll give it a try.


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: supercollider]
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Supercollider, I too am back after years off the hobby. in the same exact boat as you.

/waves (pun not intended)

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" [Re: Oatman2000]
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thats great but what about the issue of the later flushes which has been brought up quite a few times?


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" [Re: A0999]
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working on another grow log right now... B+ spawning to Coir.

I pasturized the coir for 1 hr. this time... will dunk the casings for 24 hrs after the first flush also.



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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" [Re: A0999]
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What is this issue of later flushes?


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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" [Re: supercollider]
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There are some reports that the potency drops off dramatically after the first few flushes.

Oatman: Are you adding anything to the Coir this time?

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" [Re: Akamatsu]
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yes i added the grounds of a pot of coffee....

1 per brick




LATER FLUSHES:

you get about 3 good flushes. There is no need to keep a casing after 3 flushes due to nutrients becomming depleted.

Edited by Oatman2000 (04/19/07 04:36 PM)

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" -Update- [Re: Oatman2000]
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Heavy colonization :-D

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" [Re: Oatman2000]
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Nice set-up :thumbup:

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Re: Spawning to COIR - "Treasure Coast" [Re: SyrianRue]
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WOW, That's amazing, I always use straight coir as a casing, and have wonderfull pinsets. I just tried the 50/50 casing for the first time and it wasn't that great, but it's a new strain (PR) that I never used before as well. Anyways, I'm inspired, I'm going out and buying a few bricks to try it myself.
Coir does tend to overlay if your not careful. Oh just picked up the same greenhouse you are using on e-bay for 25 bucks shipped. i abolutely love it. It's so much sturdier than I imagined it would be, and looks good in my bedroom too.

Great job +5 Shrooms for you!!!


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