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Somas way to Feminized Seeds
    #5824374 - 07/05/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

For the people interested, I decided to put this here, because i wasnt sure who all was interested or who all knew how without stressing.... so yeah... :smile:
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Creating feminized cannabis seeds is an art. Just like art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have used gibberellic acid, pH stress, light stress, and fertilizer stress to force my female plants to make seeds. All of these methods are harsh on the plants, and some, like the gibberellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner, more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds.

Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, rather than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher pH, some a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like much less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you can’t treat every plant the same way.

It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown the same strains for close to a decade, and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and in learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.

I named this new method "Rodelization," after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plants in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male "bananas." A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built-in safety factor so that in case of severe conditions, the plant can make sure the species is furthered.

To me, a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male-banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop, or at the very least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emergency devices out. I call them "emergency devices" because they emerge at times of stress.

In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plants 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed, and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one or two months and still remain potent.

For the next phase, you need to have a separate crop that’s already 2 1/2 weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bags of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut all the fans in the growroom down. Then take a very fine paintbrush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with up to 10 different kinds in the same room with great success.

I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time (two crops), but is completely organic, and lets you have great-quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If you’re one of those growers who’s never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.

You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross-pollinating. The older females with the male bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, unpollinated females after they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later, you will have ripe 100% feminized seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.

As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from ThSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: Drop seeds not bombs.

Edited by calab (07/05/06 05:27 PM)

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Re: Somas way to Feminized Seeds [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5824850 - 07/05/06 06:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Soma's way of doing seeds it total garbage. What this does is give you flowers off of the plants that were the most likely to go hermie in the first place.

If you want feminized seeds you have to stress test the plants and the plants that are last to go hermie are the ones you want seeds from. With soma's way if you stress test them to get rid of the most likely ones to go hermie his way will take forever.

Here is some sts treated flowers with male pods. With a plant that is a true female not hermie when the sts treatments stop she goes back into normal female flowering.


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Re: Somas way to Feminized Seeds [Re: Magash]
    #5825262 - 07/05/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Is sts the same thing as cl-one?

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Re: Somas way to Feminized Seeds [Re: Anonymous]
    #5825336 - 07/05/06 09:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It's suppose to be but there isn't enough sts in cl-one. That crap is junk.


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Re: Somas way to Feminized Seeds [Re: Magash]
    #5825354 - 07/05/06 09:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Good to know, is there any sts solutions/sprays,etc that are actually any good?

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Re: Somas way to Feminized Seeds [Re: Anonymous]
    #5825380 - 07/05/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

well his way seems pretty good to me, all u have to do is let it flower a week or 2 more than usual and get the banana flowers, and then store that, then pollonate your females with that.. Seems better than stressing to me

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Re: Somas way to Feminized Seeds [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5825401 - 07/05/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It gives a huge rate of hermies if you like those. Theres a reason he's pulling his feminized seeds off the market.


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Re: Somas way to Feminized Seeds [Re: Magash]
    #5825453 - 07/05/06 09:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

What was that all about anyway? Was he just trying to find a non-chemical way to do it or something?

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Re: Somas way to Feminized Seeds [Re: Anonymous]
    #5825935 - 07/05/06 11:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i actually dont know... lol

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Re: Somas way to Feminized Seeds [Re: Anonymous]
    #5826332 - 07/06/06 01:53 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah soma is into all organics. His way works but it has a very high rate of hermies. The problem being he charges the most for his fems but doesn't take the time to doit right like dutch Passion, spice Brothers, Nirvana and Female Seeds.

The other prob is if a plant has no hermie trates it can sit there for a month after it's ready and no male flowers will appear. Ya want true feminized seeds you have to stress a true female.

and nothing is fool proof and the breeders know this also. That is why the seeds are called feminized and not female.


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