|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
ComfortablyStond
Mr. Lizard
Registered: 03/15/06
Posts: 239
Loc: Psychedelphia, USA
Last seen: 13 years, 10 months
|
Jars vs. Bags?
#5816687 - 07/03/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Is there any advantage to using jars over bags, or vice versa, and if so, can anyone tell me what they are? I've been using jars since I fist got into this hobby, but a friend suggested bags. He never really explained why, tho, so I figured I'd ask the experts... I kinda wondered what Agar would have to say? Anyway, if anyone has any preferences between the two, I'd love to hear what they are, and why.
-------------------- "It's not a war on drugs. It's a war on personal freedom. Keep that in mind at all times..." Bill Hicks
|
Anno
Experimenter
Registered: 06/17/99
Posts: 24,166
Loc: my room
Last seen: 9 days, 13 hours
|
|
Bags are bigger. They don't break. They are cheaper to buy.
Jars are easier to shake. They don't tear and puncture. They are reusable.
|
Snaggletooth
Stranger in a Strange Land
Registered: 10/24/05
Posts: 6,109
Loc: blinks stupidly
Last seen: 6 years, 10 months
|
|
Jars suck, I dont like them at all. And only use them for testing LC.
I don't know how to compare them, there are no advantages with jars. And the only downside to bags are there expense, but when you buy a 1000 price is not an issue. I thing bags are the way to go, I love them
-------------------- Atheist Chat
|
Anno
Experimenter
Registered: 06/17/99
Posts: 24,166
Loc: my room
Last seen: 9 days, 13 hours
|
|
>there are no advantages with jars
Jars are easier to shake. They don't tear and puncture. They are reusable.
|
djInfctdMushroom
Stranger
Registered: 06/26/06
Posts: 128
Loc: seattle WA
Last seen: 11 months, 3 hours
|
Re: Jars vs. Bags? [Re: Anno]
#5817234 - 07/03/06 07:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
i like jars ---------- bags or ok
-------------------- po box'x and bowling alleys are a growers best freind No statements made in any post or message by any persons and/or parties should be constructed to concieve means or measures that I am now, or have ever been, involved in or considering participation or involvement in any activities in violation of any local, state, or federal laws. All posts are works of fiction and thats a fact. dunking tek video knock substrate tek video rye grain knock tek video i asian.. self explanitory right
|
Snaggletooth
Stranger in a Strange Land
Registered: 10/24/05
Posts: 6,109
Loc: blinks stupidly
Last seen: 6 years, 10 months
|
Re: Jars vs. Bags? [Re: Anno]
#5817357 - 07/03/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Anno said: >there are no advantages with jars
Jars are easier to shake. They don't tear and puncture. They are reusable.
shaking is soo 80's, I have no problem with massaging
Never had one puncture or tear ,
Jars brake, which has happen,
OK there is one you can reuse them, technically so are bags
But jars still suck
-------------------- Atheist Chat
|
Capless
Student
Registered: 06/25/06
Posts: 365
Last seen: 15 years, 1 day
|
|
When you autoclave bags, how do you keep them from touching the sides of the pot?
-------------------- http://www.toolband.com/ "... This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality. Embrace this moment. Remember, We are eternal. all this pain is an illusion...."
|
liamtheloser
Advanced Idiot
Registered: 06/07/06
Posts: 1,453
|
Re: Jars vs. Bags? [Re: Capless]
#5817395 - 07/03/06 07:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
towel wrapped around them all...
--------------------
|
Snaggletooth
Stranger in a Strange Land
Registered: 10/24/05
Posts: 6,109
Loc: blinks stupidly
Last seen: 6 years, 10 months
|
|
I use tinfoil
-------------------- Atheist Chat
|
ComfortablyStond
Mr. Lizard
Registered: 03/15/06
Posts: 239
Loc: Psychedelphia, USA
Last seen: 13 years, 10 months
|
|
Well, thank you all so much for your input, it is much appreciated...I think I'm gonna go the bag route this go-round. Thanks to all the info on this site, I've pretty much been able to become self-sufficient. Changing to the bags will probably change that, unless....hey, does anyone have a tek, possibly with pics, on how one would go about producing one's own bags? I had this crazy sceme involving oven bags, poly-fill and micropore tape. After all, a bag is just a flexi-jar, is it not? Does this sound sound, or am I just sober and therefore fucked in the head?
-------------------- "It's not a war on drugs. It's a war on personal freedom. Keep that in mind at all times..." Bill Hicks
|
Eraserhead
Lost Soul
Registered: 05/26/06
Posts: 1,363
Loc: Earth
Last seen: 14 years, 4 months
|
|
Heres a link to DIY Mycobags
--------------------
|
Omnicracker
Crusted Trolltivator
Registered: 09/18/05
Posts: 1,421
Loc: Wal-Merica
|
|
i just went though this myself. ive always used jars, but bags seemed so much easier. so i ran my first mycobags last weekend. two more things to consider:
1) As much as i love the look of jars welldone...
fuck a jar!
its not so bad cleaning them, i took a lesson from the bars and do a two dunk bath with bleach/soap and it goes kinda quick. the only time i tried a dishwasher, i ended up clogging it with millet and poo. badass.
2) jars take up a lot of space in a pressure cooker. bags are a great way to up your substrate producing capacity if you cant afford a new pc. - i think i can fit almost 3x as much wbs than with jars. - but you have to cook 2.5-3x as long, but with time spent cooling and warming up, it goes a lot faster.
then a bunch of LC!
-Bobby Fondle
|
ComfortablyStond
Mr. Lizard
Registered: 03/15/06
Posts: 239
Loc: Psychedelphia, USA
Last seen: 13 years, 10 months
|
|
Thanks for the advice, folks. And thanks for the link, Eraserhead...awsome tek that worked VERY well.
-------------------- "It's not a war on drugs. It's a war on personal freedom. Keep that in mind at all times..." Bill Hicks
|
hyphae
born to grow
Registered: 12/13/02
Posts: 6,228
Loc: the rain forests
Last seen: 12 years, 10 months
|
|
Bags ROCK!!! As far as jars being easier to shake well you don't shake bags you knead them and it works a hell of a lot better than shaking IME.
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
|
JSshroom
dont be paranoid, just aware
Registered: 06/16/05
Posts: 825
Loc: I love that spore drop
Last seen: 4 months, 3 days
|
Re: Jars vs. Bags? [Re: hyphae]
#5820277 - 07/04/06 02:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Fuck jars they suck. If you are using an electric range and keep your temps in the 15-17 psi range depending on the mil of the bags you can let them touch the sides. I use 2-mil poly bags for casing and I cram the PC so full there is no room left. The bags are a little sticky sometimes if you do not keep an eye on temps and keep it in the 15 psi range. I bought sporeworks bags which are 40$ for 100 but someone told me they are thicker mil then the 30$ ones from another company. Another advantage to bags over jars is when spawning many people will open there jars and break the mycelium up 24-48 hrs ahead of time so it begins re-knitting itself so when you spawn it. There is no recovery time for the mycelium. with a bag you just kneed if a day ahead of time. No need to expose it to the elements.
|
Roadkill
Retired Shroomery Mod
Registered: 12/11/01
Posts: 22,674
Loc: Montana
|
|
I like keeping it old school...
I use jars.
Mostly because I have a crap load of them!~
I can see advantages to using bags though.
You don't have to clean them...
and if you get a contam you can just throw it away!~
tc
-------------------- Laterz, Road Who the hell you callin crazy? You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch! Brainiac said: PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.
|
|