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TheFakeSunRa
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Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms
#5803971 - 06/29/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why are they legal? Is it because they suck? Are they cool? Please let me know what kind of experiences you may have had.
Thank you.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#5804334 - 06/29/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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try the search.
I tried them, three seperate times, I Got 1 once of amanita muscaria, about 8-10 grams(dry) for each experiment, slim to none as for as psychadelic effects go, I thought I felt some placebo, but of course that was just me, they tasted bad (not extremely bad).
http://www.youtube.com/results?search=fly+agaric&search_type=search_videos&search=Search
watch that.^^^
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms [Re: JCoke]
#5805574 - 06/30/06 01:27 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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i loved that video, but i wonder what they meant when they said one can over dose? or one can be permanently damaged?
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dudefromaz
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my experience with amanitas = pukefest
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms [Re: dudefromaz]
#5806757 - 06/30/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I experienced some placebo effects, even smoked a bunch of the broken off pieces. All in all I ended up passing out. I literally fell asleep and could not stay awake. Actually all 3 of us all fell asleep on the same couch in the sitting position, heads leaned back snoring. I recommend eating them for sleeping disorders lol.
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TheFakeSunRa
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms [Re: Newbie]
#5811829 - 07/02/06 07:37 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's odd because they don't generate much enthusiam here, it seems, yet on erowid and wiki they sound so great. I guess I'll just have to decide for myself first hand.
Thanks a lot for the responses guys.
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BobHumboldt
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#5812410 - 07/02/06 12:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amanita muscaria (Soma) is in my opinion, the best drug in the world. As far as why it is still legal -- aside from in the State of Louisiana, Israel, and a couple of other places, good question. I think it has to do with the excellent job that has been done in brainwashing people to believe that it is deadly poisionous. Keep it up, after all there's no need to outlaw a "deadly poison", heh heh.
There's shitloads of research/advice/bullshit on the net about amanita. Two examples: James Arthur (he's all puffed up and full of himself, at www.jamesarthur.net) and Hawk and Venus at http://redangels.yage.net. Hawk is a Soma Shaman, probably the world's authority on Amanita Muscaria. James Arthur is a wanna be (again, just my opinion).
Read up on it before you try. There are lots of experiences on erowid. I've got a couple up there, a recipe for tea, and one called "Dancing with God."
One good method, for me, is about 10 grams, dry, washed down with milk. When the tendons in your wrists start to "jump" you will know that the effects are coming on. Once you are in tune with Soma, you can eat 6 or 7 grams (I can, anyway) and feel supremely calm, content, and have a 200 IQ. In other words, it's like a total mental tonic.
Everyone's different, though. I've only taken it about 25 times. Someone like Hawk, who wrote a great book called Soma Shamans, and has eaten Soma thousands of times, day in day out, can probably tell you more.
I think folks at the shroomery are more into psilocybe because they are more 'dependable' and the trip is generally more enjoyable. I mean, there isn't much that can beat psilocybe cyanescens, except (again, just my opinion), 10 grams of Washington State Amanita Muscaria.
Peace
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#5812446 - 07/02/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I very much enjoy amanitas and so do my friends. I usually boil water then pour the hot water over the amanitas so as to make a tea but not destroy the actives, Using lime or lemon helps to get more effects from the amanitas. It has stages the first of which is naseua/sedation This is followed by a deep unrousable sleep for 30 minutes to 2 hours Upon waking the user is transported to the amanita state. It can be quite disconcerting to wake up in this dissociative state. It is very interesting. Some miscoordination, definite euphoria and produced some very geometric visuals when cannabis was smoked on it. I noticed when I was smoking that I felt like I had 8 lungs. I could take very large hits and exert myself to a great extent physically. This is a very positive state.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#5812449 - 07/02/06 01:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh and as to why they are legal... My theory is that there is strong evidence to link amanita use to christianity, and being a predominantly christian state perhaps the powers that be leave it legal. It could however just be its obscurity.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms [Re: passitbobbie]
#5812589 - 07/02/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks you two. Now, I'm really pumped!
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BobHumboldt
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms [Re: passitbobbie]
#5814842 - 07/03/06 05:47 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
passitbobbie said: Oh and as to why they are legal... My theory is that there is strong evidence to link amanita use to christianity, and being a predominantly christian state perhaps the powers that be leave it legal. It could however just be its obscurity.
I didn't want to say it, but I also believe 100% that the reason stated above is exactly why Amanita Muscaria is still legal. It is ALL OVER in the Bible, especially the Douay Version, which is the foundation on which nearly all English Catholic versions are still based, which was translated directly from the Latin Vulgate of St. Jerome.
In that version, the Host (the Sacrament) is referred to as "supersubstantial bread". Now if you know anything at all about Amanita, or have heard the Word of God (the Word, itself, which is "God", oddly enough), you will know, not just "think", that Amanita Muscaria is the key to the Temple, and the entire basis for Christianity. That's why it is illegal in Israel (they do not want the Amanita Muscaria Cult re-established in the Holy City), but what makes me scratch my head is why the Hell Louisiana (idiots) made Amanita Muscaria illegal.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms [Re: BobHumboldt]
#5815827 - 07/03/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wow! You really belive that?
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms [Re: Kras]
#5815890 - 07/03/06 12:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Kras said: Wow! You really belive that?
I do there is ample evidence to link amanitas to christianity. There is a good video called "The Pharmacratic Inquisition" here It details the links between amanitas and christianity.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms [Re: passitbobbie]
#5817450 - 07/03/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm almost done reading Clark Heinrich`'s "Magic Mushrooms in Religion and Alchemy" and that's exactly what he believes. That= amanita muscaria (the soma of the ancient world) is the hidden teaching of christianity. hard to believe at first, but the evidence is so overwhelming and so frequent that it's almost hard not believe that there was some kind of plant (drug) behind it all.
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Kras
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms [Re: Betrayalways]
#5818838 - 07/04/06 04:23 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't buy it. Mixing drugs with Christ is like adding sexual magic to orthodox monastery... and I'm sure that even that can be proven! Many things can be convincing but don't loose your touch with reality. Be more skeptical. Especially with that Israel banning amanitas because they don't want the mushroom cult to be reestablished? It's insane...
Maybe I sound like an arrogant asshole. If, so I'm sorry.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms [Re: Kras]
#5820596 - 07/04/06 04:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have only read Heinrich's book, but if you follow his arguements, they are thought provoking. Have you read anything about Christ and cultic teachings? I'm skeptical but I think you should be more open to the idea, check out his book or a different one and then if you don't agree fine, but at least then you can understand where some of us are coming from.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms [Re: Kras]
#5832935 - 07/07/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, Kras, I believe it. I've read Clark's book, and Wasson's book and a bunch of others -- anything I can get my hands on relating to religion, magic, mushrooms, philosophy, natural history, etc. I have an open mind. I'm 45, very responsible rational person, mortgage, kids, raised a Catholic. I don't drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes -- a cigar once in a while.
I really don't give a fuck what other people do, as long as they don't hurt me or my kids, and I don't have to pay for their stupidity with my taxes. I certainly don't give a fuck what other people think, unless they're in a position where their opinion has some effect on my well being or the well being of my family. I AM an ARROGANT ASSHOLE, but I have earned the right to be who I am by virtue of my life of foolish acts.
I don't take anything too seriously, lest of all myself and my pompous flatulence.
Peace
By the way ... my family is from Poznan. One of the other crazy things that I beleive is that Lech, the late Pope, and Ronald R., were three great men who started the process that lead to the downfall of the "Evil Empire." har, har, har. Long Live Poland.
Edited by BobHumboldt (07/07/06 06:41 PM)
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Kras
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Mushrooms [Re: BobHumboldt]
#5834370 - 07/08/06 05:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Man, you are insane
At least you are not boring
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