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#5707478 - 06/03/06 01:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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17 terror suspects arrested in Toronto
By BETH DUFF-BROWN, Associated Press Writer2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Canadian authorities said Saturday they had foiled plans for terrorist attacks in southern Ontario with the arrests of 17 people who were "inspired by al-Qaida."
The Royal Canadian Mounted Police said they had arrested 12 male adults and five youths on terrorism-related charges, including plotting attacks with explosives on Canadian targets. The suspects were either citizens or residents of Canada and had trained together, they said.
"This group took steps to acquire three tons of ammonium nitrate and other components necessary to create explosive devices," said assistant Royal Canadian Mounted Police commissioner Mike McDonell.
That is three times the amount used to blow up the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, he said, referring to the April 19, 1995, attack that killed 168 people and injured more than 800.
"The men arrested yesterday are Canadian residents from a variety of backgrounds. For various reasons, they appeared to have become adherents of a violent ideology inspired by al-Qaida," said Luc Portelance, the assistant director of operations with CSIS — Canada's spy agency.
However, he said, there did not appear to be any direct link to Osama bin Laden's terrorist network.
Officials showed evidence of bomb making materials — including a cell phone-bomb detonator — a computer hard drive, camouflage uniforms and what appeared to be a door with bullet holes in it at a news conference Saturday.
The arrests were made Friday and about 400 officers were involved in the operation.
Heavily armed police ringed the Durham Regional Police Station in the city of Pickering, just east of Toronto, as the suspects were brought in late Friday night in unmarked cars driven into an underground garage.
The Toronto Star reported Saturday that Canadian youths in their teens and 20s, upset at the treatment of Muslims worldwide, were among those arrested.
The newspaper said they had trained at a camp north of Toronto and had plotted to attack the Canadian spy agency's downtown Toronto office, among other targets in Ontario province.
In March 2004, Ottawa software developer Mohammad Momin Khawaja became the first Canadian charged under the country's Anti-Terrorism Act. Khawaja was also named, but not charged, in Britain for playing a role in a foiled bomb plot. He is being held in an Ottawa detention center, awaiting trial.
The Canadian anti-terrorism law was passed swiftly following the Sept. 11 assaults, particularly after bin-Laden named Canada as one of five so-called Christian nations that should be targeted for terror attacks.
The other four countries, reaffirmed in 2004 by his al-Qaida network, were the United States, Britain, Spain and Australian, all of which have been targeted in terrorist attacks.
The anti-terrorism law permits the government to brand individuals and organizations as terrorists and gives police the power to make preventive arrests of people suspected of planning attacks.
Though many view Canada as an unassuming neutral nation that has skirted terrorist attacks, it has suffered its share of aggression, including the 1985 Air India bombing, in which 329 people were killed, most of them Canadian citizens.
Intelligence officials suspect at least 50 terror groups now have some presence in the North American nation and have long complained that the country's immigration laws and border security are too weak to weed out potential terrorists.
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Re: Canadian Terrorists [Re: Catalysis]
#5707513 - 06/03/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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God is Great, eh?
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Re: Canadian Terrorists [Re: Catalysis]
#5707563 - 06/03/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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So did anyone catch the domestic spying in this story? Apparently Canada has been data mining on its citizens. I wonder if there will be fallout similar to the US.
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Re: Canadian Terrorists [Re: Catalysis]
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"This group took steps to acquire three tons of ammonium nitrate and other components necessary to create explosive devices," said assistant Royal Canadian Mounted Police commissioner Mike McDonell.
no doubt intended to strike back against worldwide canadian imperialism and crimes against muslims. GOD IS GREAT!
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Re: Canadian Terrorists [Re: wilshire]
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CANADIAN HEGEMONY!!!!!!!!
Not to mention Canadian support for the JEWS!!!!!
Be prepared for a Ramsey Clarke sighting soon.
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Re: Canadian Terrorists [Re: Catalysis]
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Catalysis said:
So did anyone catch the domestic spying in this story? Apparently Canada has been data mining on its citizens. I wonder if there will be fallout similar to the US.
Um, no. Perhaps it's in the link, somewhere, which you failed to provide
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Re: Canadian Terrorists [Re: zappaisgod]
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I think his sources may have secured this bit o knowledge for him. His anti spying spies.
Or inferrence?
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Re: Canadian Terrorists [Re: zappaisgod]
#5707807 - 06/03/06 03:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah sorry, it wasn't in the story I posted. This is kind of long, but anyways..
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Content...ol=969048863474
How Internet monitoring sparked a CSIS investigation into a suspected homegrown terror cell
Jun. 3, 2006. 01:00 AM
MICHELLE SHEPHARD
STAFF REPORTER
Last night's dramatic police raid and arrest of as many as a dozen men — with more to come — marks the culmination of Canada's largest ever terrorism investigation into an alleged homegrown cell.
The chain of events began two years ago, sparked by local teenagers roving through Internet sites, reading and espousing anti-Western sentiments and vowing to attack at home, in the name of oppressed Muslims here and abroad.
Their words were sometimes encrypted, the Internet sites where they communicated allegedly restricted by passwords, but Canadian spies back in 2004 were reading them. And as the youths' words turned into actions, they began watching them.
According to sources close to the investigation, the suspects are teenagers and men in their 20s who had a relatively typical Canadian upbringing, but — allegedly spurred on by images of conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan and angered by what they saw as the mistreatment of Muslims at home — became increasingly violent.
Police say they acquired weapons, picked targets and made detailed plans.
They travelled north to a "training camp" and made propaganda videos imitating jihadists who had battled in Afghanistan. At night, they washed up at a Tim Hortons nearby.
One was a math and chemistry whiz from Scarborough who grew up to become a 22-year-old husband and father.
It's unclear why the authorities decided to act on their suspicions yesterday. None of these allegations has been proven in court, where the suspects are expected to appear for the first time this morning.
Sources say the arrests involve a "homegrown" terrorism cell — Western youths who have never set foot in Afghanistan but allegedly were radicalized here, and who are thought to be potentially as dangerous as the cells that once took orders from Osama bin Laden. Western governments, including Canada's, have repeatedly warned of this phenomenon and blamed recent attacks, such as last July's bombings in London, as the work of such groups.
The Canadian investigation involves a complicated web of connections, with alleged ties to two men from Georgia who came to Toronto in March 2005 to meet with "like-minded Islamic extremists," according to U.S. court documents.
Details of the Canadian investigation will be officially released this morning at a news conference.
For the spies who work on the 10th floor of a Front St. office building, with the CN Tower looming above and a hub of Toronto's tourist district buzzing below, this investigation was personal.
The group arrested yesterday allegedly had a list of targets, sources have told the Star, and the Toronto headquarters of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service was one of them.
So were the Parliament Buildings in Ottawa and a smattering of other high-profile, heavily populated areas. But since most of the suspects lived in the GTA, it was the potential threat to the spy service's office and the chaos an attack would create in the heart of Toronto that concerned CSIS most.
According to sources, the suspects allegedly planned to target the spy service because many of them had encountered agents early in the investigation, when they were interviewed and put under surveillance. They also were allegedly angered by media reports accusing CSIS of racial profiling of Muslims.
Many of the agents were known to members of the group only by aliases, but the belief that the office had been targeted led to months of unease among CSIS staff, sources said.
Some of the group's members had even been spotted taking notes around the building, and at least one had reportedly visited the basement, one source told the Star.
The investigation began back in 2004, when CSIS was monitoring Internet sites and tracing the paths of Canadians believed to have ties to international terrorist organizations. Local youths espousing fundamentalist views drew special attention, sources say.
Since it was created 21 years ago, the spy service's mandate has been to protect Canada's security. It is not a police force; its agents don't carry weapons, have no power of arrest and traditionally have preferred to stay out of public view.
But CSIS does have a relationship with the RCMP, albeit one traditionally fraught with turf wars and communication problems, and the focus of criticism and concern since 9/11.
The two federal agencies work independently, but when CSIS is monitoring someone who could be prosecuted criminally, the spy service notifies the Mounties in what's known as an "advisory letter."
`We are seeing phenomena
in Canada such as the emergence of homegrown second and third generation terrorists'
Jack Hooper, CSIS deputy director
That happened in this case on Nov. 17, 2004.
Four months after authorities began to fear that Canada might have its own homegrown terrorist cell, two Americans entered the picture.
Ehsanul Islam Sadequee, a 19-year-old U.S. citizen of Bangladeshi descent who had attended high school in Ontario, and Syed Haris Ahmed, 21, a student at Georgia Tech, boarded a Greyhound bus in Atlanta on March 6, 2005, and travelled to Toronto to meet "like-minded Islamic extremists," a U.S. court document alleges.
At the time the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force was watching the U.S. pair, Sadequee, according to court documents, was already on a no-fly list. But they crossed the border uneventfully and met three people associated with the group the Canadian authorities were watching.
Ahmed later told authorities that the meetings were to discuss U.S. locations suitable for a terrorist strike, including oil refineries and military bases, court documents state. They also allegedly talked about how to dismantle the Global Positioning System in an effort to disrupt military and commercial communications and traffic, and their plans to go to Pakistan to train at "terrorist-sponsored camps." (The FBI claims Ahmed "later travelled to Pakistan in an attempt to receive just such training.")
Ahmed is now in U.S. custody, indicted in March for material support of terrorism. He has pleaded not guilty.
Sadequee is accused of making false statements in connection with a terrorism investigation. He was arrested in April in Bangladesh and handed over to American authorities — a transfer his lawyer later characterized in court as being closer to a kidnapping than an arrest. Sadequee was flown to Alaska, according to U.S. news reports, and, having waived a preliminary hearing, consented to being transferred to Brooklyn, N.Y. He has been denied bail and is awaiting trial.
Fahim Ahmad, who was arrested as part of yesterday's sweep, was living with his wife and children in a Scarborough apartment in August 2005, while authorities were watching him closely. The 22-year-old allegedly rented a car for two Toronto-area men to go to the U.S.
The licence plate was flagged so it could be pulled over upon its return to Canada, sources told the Star and court documents confirm. On Aug. 13, at 5:30 a.m., a student working with the Canada Border Services Agency at the Peace Bridge in Fort Erie pulled over the white Buick that Ahmad had rented, which was being driven by Yasin Mohamed, 24, of Toronto, with Ali Dirie, 22, whose last address was in Markham, as a passenger.
The car was targeted because its plate number came back with the warning: "Look out, possible narcotic involvement," on a customs database, court documents state.
After the two were briefly questioned, a superintendent was called over, and Dirie and Mohamed were told to wait outside the car as it was searched.
"The customs inspector noticed that Mohamed seemed to fidgeting with his hands in his pockets, and unable to stand still despite being told to keep his hands where the officers could see them," states the summary that was read into the court record during a hearing last October.
Both appeared nervous, frequently looking at each other. At one point Mohamed tried to push his back away from the wall where he was placed, the documents state. It was at that point that the customs officer discovered a loaded Highpoint .380 calibre handgun that Mohamed had tucked inside his waistband. Ammunition, some of which did not match the guns the men were bringing in, fell out of his pockets as he was being handcuffed.
Officers later found two loaded handguns taped to Dirie's inner thighs — a Millennium PT 19mm and a .380 Calibre Jennings. In his socks they found a magazine for a semi-automatic handgun and "several rounds of ammunition," according to the court transcripts.
Both men, who are landed immigrants, had minor criminal records and told the court they were buying the guns for their own "protection." They pleaded guilty last October and were both given two-year sentences.
"Whether they were mules, whether they were going to use them for their own protection, which is all we have right now, we have nothing to indicate that they were going to be sold," St. Catharines Crown attorney Ron Brooks told the court, according to a transcript of the October sentencing hearing.
"But the bottom line is — the mayor of Toronto indicated fairly recently in an interview — is that there's only one thing that you can use weapons of that nature for, and it's either to kill somebody or to give them to somebody else to kill somebody."
Ahmad, who rented the car, was not charged in the incident.
As to laying such as charge, "I think the only thing we'd be looking at there is if they aided in the commission of the substantial offence. Did they send them on this mission with a rented car? To my knowledge there was not any information that would support the laying of a criminal charge in that case," Niagara police Insp. Brian Eckhardt said in an interview earlier this year.
"I'm sure it was looked at at the time, which is what we always do."
`I do believe that when the time comes, a number of these people will attempt to do something quite serious.'
Dale Neufeld, retired CSIS deputy director
The Star contacted Ahmad last March to discuss the incident, but he refused to meet or answer questions about why he rented the car for the two men.
"I don't want to be discussing this," Ahmad said. When asked about the car rental, he replied: "The police and whatnot, they know my side of the story and that's all that matters."
Mohamed and Dirie both declined the Star's request to be interviewed. Mohamed's brother also said his family did not want to comment.
Although there was no public acknowledgement of this investigation, by last fall, officials were beginning to send out frequent warnings about a homegrown threat.
In the only interview CSIS director Jim Judd has given since taking the helm of the service, he told the Star in September that homegrown terrorism was a pressing concern mainly because it's so difficult to detect.
Unconnected to the case, but being watched closely during this time by Canadian authorities, was the Netherlands investigation into the assassination of filmmaker Theo van Gogh and a young local extremist cell dubbed the Hofstad Group.
Made up of mainly Dutch-born youths angered by van Gogh's critical portrayal of Islam, Canadian authorities believed the group was eerily similar to the Canadian group, sources say. They appeared to be unsophisticated, disenfranchised youths, but the group became a growing threat, killing van Gogh and forcing a number of political figures to go into hiding or flee the country.
That the Canadian group shouldn't be underestimated was a message that hit home.
Last winter, the investigation took a turn when some of the younger members allegedly went north to what police were referring to as a "training camp."
By February this group was being viewed in police and intelligence circles as Canada's greatest terrorism threat. Chiefs of Ontario police forces, including Toronto's Bill Blair, met in Toronto for a high-level briefing.
While the public denials of any specific threat continued, hints were dropped.
During a Senate committee review of Canada's anti-terrorism legislation, now-retired CSIS deputy director Dale Neufeld spoke at length about Canadian-born radicalized youths.
"It's the second generation, the children of Muslims who are born in this country. They have a very normal upbringing, according to our analysis, but at some point in their teenage years or young 20s, they decide that radical Islam is the path they want to take," Neufeld said.
"The other (concern) is young Canadians who are generally quite disillusioned, which is again very disturbing because it's hard to detect and hard to investigate. They're the kids who don't do well in high school, but could do anything. They could become petty criminals. They could get involved in the drug culture. They might join a motorcycle gang. We're now seeing a number of examples where they decide to take up Islam in the radical form.
"It's not just rhetoric. I do believe that when the time comes, a number of these people will attempt to do something quite serious."
On Monday, as final preparations were being made for yesterday's arrests, current CSIS deputy director Jack Hooper again spoke before senators of the threat posed by young people radicalized at home.
"We are seeing phenomena in Canada such as the emergence of homegrown second- and third-generation terrorists. These are people who may have immigrated to Canada at an early age who become radicalized while in Canada. They are virtually indistinguishable from other youth. They blend into our society very well, they speak our language and they appear to be, for all intents and purposes, well assimilated," Hooper said.
He talked about youths absorbing radical ideas from the Internet.
"You are satisfied from the information you have that the homegrown terrorist is primarily looking at targets in Canada?" Senator Michael Meighen asked.
The normally verbose Hooper answered with a curt, "Yes."
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Re: Canadian Terrorists [Re: Catalysis]
#5710450 - 06/04/06 08:12 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Canada will probably soon be violating the rights of those who want ammonium nitrate, but can't get it because of the Canadian imperialist government restrictions on the chemical.
Bombs made from fertilizer can cause 'catastrophic' damage
Lee Berthiaume, The Ottawa Citizen; with files from the Canadian Press
Published: Sunday, June 04, 2006
The three tonnes of ammonium nitrate police seized in Friday's terror raids posed a "real and serious" threat, but the substance is still readily available as a fertilizer.
Police said the arrests foiled a series of terrorist attacks that could have caused catastrophic damage.
One tonne of ammonium nitrate was used in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, which destroyed a federal building and left 168 dead.
"The quantity, of course, is alarming; it's quite astonishing," David Harris, a former chief of strategic planning for the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, said yesterday of the Toronto seizure.
"It seems to suggest an almost rabid dedication to undertake something serious, whether as a major catastrophic explosion or a series of devastating assaults."
Federal government regulations to make it more difficult to acquire bomb-making substances are on the way, but ammonium nitrate as a fertilizer is still readily available.
"It's a fairly ubiquitous substance," said Phil Lightfoot, manager of the explosives research laboratory at Natural Resources Canada. "It is widely used and relatively easy to acquire."
Mr. Lightfoot said recent changes to the Explosives Act have allowed for the control of substances that can be used to create bombs, and government officials are in the process of writing regulations on the control of ammonium nitrate.
The new regulations will require the vendor to know a buyer personally, or obtain identification, and keep written records of all sales.
Hundreds of thousands of tonnes of ammonium nitrate are produced at chemical plants in Canada each year, Mr. Lightfoot said.
Wade Deisman, director of the national security working group at the University of Ottawa, said changing regulations for ammonium nitrate will help in the short term, but terrorists and others will find something else to use to build bombs.
"As a stop-gap measure, it is a good measure," he said. "But right now we're talking about the most available (substance) and then they're going to move on to the second-most available. All it takes is a little imagination."
Besides the Oklahoma City bombing, ammonium nitrate has been linked to other terrorist attacks and plots. The Irish Republican Army used the substance in many bombings, and it was identified as the main ingredient used in the Bali bombings in Indonesia in 2002, which killed 202 people.
Eric Brooks, owner of Eco Landscaping Brookside Gardens nursery, said ammonium nitrate is still available in large bags from farming suppliers around the province, but most nurseries and hardware stores no longer sell it for home use because new fertilizers have been made available.
© The Ottawa Citizen 2006
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=ea3024b3-f999-4d01-8912-f04d3059643e&k=19890
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Re: Canadian Terrorists [Re: Luddite]
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Re: Canadian Terrorists [Re: Luddite]
#5710549 - 06/04/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Canadian Terrorists [Re: Catalysis]
#6475983 - 01/19/07 10:07 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Armed camp planned for northern Ontario
CBC: 'Toronto 18' case
Melissa Leong, National Post
Published: Thursday, January 18, 2007
A group of young Toronto men were planning to harbour two Americans accused of terrorist activity and protect them by setting up an armed "Chechnya style resistance" in northern Ontario against law enforcement officials, a police informant who infiltrated the alleged local extremist cell said in a CBC news program.
Mubin Shaikh, a former army cadet and paid police mole, revealed last night on The Fifth Estate that he helped look for a safe house in Opasatika, Ont. for two Atlanta men who authorities say were planning a terrorist attack in the United States.
The U.S. Department of Justice claims that Syed Haris Ahmed and his friend Ehsanul Islam Sadequee, both from Georgia, spent a week in Toronto and met with the alleged members of the "Toronto 18." They have both been indicted on charges of providing material support to terrorists.
"They were going to come up here for refuge and what we were going to do was provide a safe house for them and we even scoped the area out, did a little recognizance," Mr. Shaikh said. The plan was to have a resistance -- a Chechnya-style resistance in northern Ontario in the bushes... to have guys up there, we would fortify ourselves and if they came looking for us, we were going to take them on.
"We looked at the road and were saying we're going to booby-trap this, we're going to have snipers over here. "It was planned out."
He told the CBC that this conversation was secretly recorded by the Canadian Security Intelligence Service.
Mr. Shaikh said he was recruited by CSIS in 2004 and asked to get close to alleged Toronto terror cell ringleader Fahim Ahmad.
He told his CSIS handler that Mr. Ahmad was "an f---ing time bomb, waiting to go off," CBC reported.
The RCMP arrested 17 terror suspects in Toronto in June and then an 18thman in August.
© National Post 2007
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/toronto/story.html?id=99547c61-417c-4277-996d-156874ae4357
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Re: Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#6481807 - 01/21/07 07:31 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those parasites are everywhere. Of course, the hippies think they're freedom fighters and will gladly surrender and let the terrorists cut all their heads off as payment for the sins of the whiteman.
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