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OfflineAuroricDistortions
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I got Beef!
    #5706473 - 06/03/06 01:32 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

First of all, I am very, very drunk, so take that into consideration, but my point is still valid.

Security and saftey should be a much, much higher priority.  I realize that the forum gets few posts realative to hot forums such as basic mush cult., but what a lot of these newbee's don't realize is the serious risk involved.  Sure, you can tell them the peanalties they be facing, but that is nothing like the experience of facing the better part of your life in jail for trying to spread love and happiness without a real perspective of the forces at work against you.  I may be going to jail for several years for trying to turn a few (very few before being caught, stupid, I know) people on to psychedelics (dmt and mushrooms, later planned on LsD) but got popped before success, let alone profits.  We should have more "butsted" threads (perhaps a subforum of Sec.&Saftey, though I know it's taboo to sugest such a thing;)).  But my point is Security and Saftey should be right after Mush Cult., and Shroomery.org needs some major changes and considerations since we are rapidly climbing in membership and attention (both good and bad) ESPECIALLY since the closeure of overgrow has brought many cannnabis related memebers to our home forum (also bringing additioinal attention from the de)a).  IN closing, I have and always will Love the Shroomery (been lurking since early 2001) and everything you have done, and I want to see you keepin' on in the absolute best way possible!  Meybe I'll update this when I can see str8, burt I hope something was of use to you.  I hope i can keep contributing, and don't go away for many years for my first felonies (mmistakes).
:mushroom2: :mushroom2:
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OfflineAuroricDistortions
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Re: I got Beef! [Re: AuroricDistortions]
    #5706490 - 06/03/06 01:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Oh yeah, NARC;s are your NUM 1 enemy, IME.  Important fact to add.  DEA luv's narcs and they will give your friends felonies too for threating them  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

bleh, I need some F***in weed to end my alcoholisim/codiene addiction, this is bullshigt.  Please smoke on for me  :stoned: :stoned:

:mushroom2: :mushroom2:
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Re: I got Beef! [Re: AuroricDistortions]
    #5707170 - 06/03/06 11:27 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

is there a link to the whole story?

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OfflineTheDudeAbides
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Re: I got Beef! [Re: zSDMF]
    #5707417 - 06/03/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

What story? :wtf:

He's saying Security and Safety should be higher up in the forum list.....


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Re: I got Beef! [Re: TheDudeAbides]
    #5710616 - 06/04/06 10:01 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

nah, the forums need a higher level of anonymity .. like irc has.

first off, If I was to ever run a site like this, I would own all the equipment involved, and keep it hosted somewhere where the drug law is not so strict and where there is not strong ties with the US (like russia or somewhere)  - because if this site was handed a federal subpoena, the owners would be required to hand over what information they want - such as access logs etc.

Now think, this forum logs every time someone logs in, with a timestamp and an IP address .. if the govt. requested access logs, It would not be hard at all for them to track down the users.

A higher level of anonymity is needed, SSL should be mandatory for all users, and .htaccess files should be used to block known government IP's.

I'm not paranoid, I've worked with computers for a large part of my life, and then mainly in the computer security field. I've done some stupid things, and I realise how important anonymity on the internet acutally is.

:2cents:


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Re: I got Beef! [Re: Cepheus]
    #5711220 - 06/04/06 01:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Free SSL connections for however many hundred of thousands of users the shroomery has? I don't know specifics, but I imagine that the overhead for that would be massive, hugely expensive in terms of CPU time.

IMO, anonymity is the responsibility of the user, not the website. You can't really expect a completely free website like this to take care of anonymity for you. Taking care of it yourself is fairly trivial using free services.

Plus, letting the web service take care of anonymity is the wrong way to go about it. It lulls users into a false sense of security. The more trust the user puts in the web service, the more likely they are to be exploited by unscrupulous sites.

When I first came to this site, how did I know to trust it? If I needed true anonymity, it's much better to encourage people to protect themselves than promising that websites will do it for them.

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Re: I got Beef! [Re: OJK]
    #5712680 - 06/04/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I just assumed it would be in the shroomery's best interest to be less 'open' with the information it provides, cause (don't quote me on this its an assumption) I would of thought the information provided here is of a questionable legality, especially as the server it is hosted on is in the us, so It would be in the shroomery's best interest to be a little less public about the information it provided - at least making the forums un-viewable to the un-registered public.

:2cents:


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:sun: "...and I know that I have to keep breathing, as tomorrow the sun will rise, who knows what the tide will bring?" :sun:

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Re: I got Beef! [Re: Cepheus]
    #5712694 - 06/04/06 08:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Information is not illegal!

Overgrow was not shut down for telling people how to grow dope. They got shut down for selling seeds.

The Shroomery tells people how to grow mushrooms, they dont sell them, or spores either for that matter. The only things being sold are shirts.


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Re: I got Beef! [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5712904 - 06/04/06 09:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The way the USA is going today,one day we won't be able too take a piss with out the government knowing about it.

One day USA is going to be The Peoples Republic of the USA.


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Re: I got Beef! [Re: Brainiac]
    #5714022 - 06/05/06 05:56 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Over my dead body.


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Re: I got Beef! [Re: Shroomism]
    #5714380 - 06/05/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

that is the plan...

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Re: I got Beef! [Re: Brainiac]
    #5718090 - 06/06/06 06:50 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

> The way the USA is going today,one day we won't be able too take a piss with out the government knowing about it.

I'm still waiting for them to put the urine drug detector right in the toilet. You use your national ID card to access the stall and if you test positive a cop is waiting outside to arrest you upon flush.


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Re: I got Beef! [Re: Seuss]
    #5721646 - 06/07/06 01:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

a curfew box at everyones front door would work too,you could clock in and out and be taxed for the freedom of breathing and waliking outdoors


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Re: I got Beef! [Re: quiver]
    #5749275 - 06/14/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

He does have somewhat of a point... Please tell me IP logs are regularly and frequently deleted. And that all identifiable information is kept to an absolute minimum.


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