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Invisibleniteowl
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Myths & Religion
    #5699110 - 06/01/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I recently watched Bram Stokers, Dracula, and was recommending it to a friend. We began discussing how the movie portrayed Dracula. What he was, what he wasn't.

And it dawned on me. We think of these mythical characters as if they were real. "What could Dracula do, what were his powers" We have given this mythical creature a life of it's own. The legend of Dracula has some historical truth to it. The story of Vlad the Impaler. Did he really have mystical/magical powers?

No.

The myths surrounding most religious characters (Jesus being the primary one) are very similar.

These stories of Jesus, were based on a real person, but did he do all that he was said to have done.


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Re: Myths & Religion [Re: niteowl]
    #5699114 - 06/01/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I think you are correct.


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Re: Myths & Religion [Re: Icelander]
    #5699137 - 06/01/06 11:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I've hallucinated people having fangs, actually more than one
occasion, I've also heard of people believing in vampires in real
life, I can't understand why someone would actually build a cult around these speculations, its likes the Bigfoot myth, it continues to grow until its widely accepted. Although I think I saw big foot once myself. So I kinda entertain that one myself.

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Re: Myths & Religion [Re: niteowl]
    #5699176 - 06/01/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Right on, and furthermore I'd add that much of the paranormal and psychic capabilities Jesus was said to have could be just hyperbole or metaphor, or perhaps it is literal and Jesus was a very powerful Yogi.

Either way I think people tend to make a mountain out of a mole hill with regards to religious figures.


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"Belief is a beautiful armor
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Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

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Re: Myths & Religion [Re: niteowl]
    #5699290 - 06/01/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

niteowl said:
I recently watched Bram Stokers, Dracula, and was recommending it to a friend. We began discussing how the movie portrayed Dracula. What he was, what he wasn't.

And it dawned on me. We think of these mythical characters as if they were real. "What could Dracula do, what were his powers" We have given this mythical creature a life of it's own. The legend of Dracula has some historical truth to it. The story of Vlad the Impaler. Did he really have mystical/magical powers?

No.

The myths surrounding most religious characters (Jesus being the primary one) are very similar.

These stories of Jesus, were based on a real person, but did he do all that he was said to have done.

:noway:




This is an assumption, and you present it as a fact.

If you said: same way Jesus MAY have been a man without powers
instead, this would be a valid post.
Otherwise this is abuse of logic.


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Re: Myths & Religion [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5699323 - 06/01/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Technically correct. :thumbup: This is a good way to cover yer ass. :grin: I do it most of the time.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Myths & Religion [Re: Icelander]
    #5700130 - 06/01/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

capliberty said:
've also heard of people believing in vampires in real
life




I recall a vampire running for govenor of Minnesota recently. :smirk:

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news

Vampire goes for governor

Voters in the US state of Minnesota may find a self-proclaimed vampire on the ballot for the office this year.

Jonathan 'The Impaler' Sharkey says he plans to announce his bid for governor today on the ticket of the Vampyres, Witches and Pagans Party.

"Politics is a cut-throat business," he said.

Eight years ago, Minnesota elected a former professional wrestler, Jesse 'The Body' Ventura, as its governor.

"I'm a Satanist who doesn't hate Jesus," Mr Sharkey said.

"I just hate God, the Father."

But 'The Impaler' says he respects all religions and if elected, will post "everything from the Ten Commandments to the Wicca Reed" in government buildings.

Mr Sharkey has also pledged to execute convicted murders and child molesters personally by impaling them on a wooden pole outside the state capitol.

He has told the Minneapolis Star Tribune newspaper he is a vampire "just like you see in the movies and TV".

"I sink my fangs into the neck of my donor... and drink their blood," he said, adding that his donor is his wife, Julie.

Mr Sharkey says he is announcing his candidacy today, on Friday 13, because that is his lucky number.

The field for the governor's race in Minnesota is far from complete.

Republican incumbent Tim Pawlenty is widely expected to seek another term in November and his Democratic opponent has not been determined.

- Reuters




Also, to see an interview with the guy (which is hilarious, by the way :smirk:), click  this and scroll down towards the bottom of the page, and there will be a link for the video (couldn't find any other way to link to the video itself).

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Re: Myths & Religion [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5700167 - 06/01/06 03:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The best part is where he says that, when he is president, he is going to have George W. Bush impaled, and rants about Bush being a Communist in the Oval Office... :lol:

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I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
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Loving every breath of you

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Re: Myths & Religion [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5700410 - 06/01/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

:rofl:


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Myths & Religion [Re: niteowl]
    #5700883 - 06/01/06 06:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

And it dawned on me. We think of these mythical characters as if they were real. "What could Dracula do, what were his powers" We have given this mythical creature a life of it's own. The legend of Dracula has some historical truth to it. The story of Vlad the Impaler. Did he really have mystical/magical powers?





They are only real as we think about them in our minds. Our ideal world. The greatest world of all if it corresponds to reality.


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Re: Myths & Religion [Re: justAkid]
    #5702295 - 06/02/06 12:22 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

"And it dawned on me. We think of these mythical characters as if they were real"

What do you mean we dork :P

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