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InvisibleMike_yy
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Quick Cactus Question ?
    #5698631 - 06/01/06 07:05 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Does this stuff smell when your boiling it up ?.
I need to be sly  :smirk:

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Re: Quick Cactus Question ? [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5698682 - 06/01/06 07:42 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Its alright, i risked it and found out for myself.

Doesn't smell too bad, quite nice !
Im into herbs anyway so i can pass it off as a nettle brew or something similar.

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Re: Quick Cactus Question ? [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5698916 - 06/01/06 09:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Edited by johnhenry (06/01/06 09:49 AM)

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Re: Quick Cactus Question ? [Re: johnhenry]
    #5698956 - 06/01/06 09:59 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It can certainly smell up the house for hours on end, even after you finish.

Not exactly a suspicious smell, but a noticable one.


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Re: Quick Cactus Question ? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5698982 - 06/01/06 10:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Koala Koolio said:
It can certainly smell up the house for hours on end, even after you finish.

Not exactly a suspicious smell, but a noticable one.




Smells abit like jam i think, i did put some lemon juice in it though.
It looks absolutely disgusting now its finished, its not tasting that good either.





This is the most disgusting stuff evar, its like snot and it tastes like shit !!!!!!!

Edited by Mike_yy (06/01/06 10:44 AM)

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Re: Quick Cactus Question ? [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5699293 - 06/01/06 12:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

"This is the most disgusting stuff evar, its like snot and it tastes like shit !!!!!!!"

AKA: I have never taken mimosa juice.

:P Cactus is bad, but it's far from the worst.


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Re: Quick Cactus Question ? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5699343 - 06/01/06 12:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Never tried mimosa juice, its the consistancy of this stuff thats so bad.

Im still waiting for any effects, i hear it takes awhile for anything to come on.
I have some left, if i don't feel anything in an hour i'll drink it down :smile:

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Re: Quick Cactus Question ? [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5699410 - 06/01/06 12:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The consistancy? Heh, if the consistancy is bad, you did something wrong.

Drink down what you have left, you'll regret it if you don't.


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Re: Quick Cactus Question ? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5699500 - 06/01/06 12:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The consistancys bad because i mashed it up after i'd finished the 2 and a half hour simmer.
It was runny before that but i thought using a potato masher on it afterwards couldn't do much harm. Sadly i was wrong !

Its been an hour since i drank it, i'm seeing slight vibrations in things but that could be placebo since its not very strong.
I'll chuck the rest down my throat, see what happens :smile:

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Re: Quick Cactus Question ? [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5699622 - 06/01/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You *did* strain it didn't you? If it's anything but liquid after straining, find something better to strain with next time.

How much did you take, anyway?


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Re: Quick Cactus Question ? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5699653 - 06/01/06 01:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

60 grams dried, im really questioning its quality now though.

If nothing much happens soon i'll be going back to where i bought it from and kicking off.
He said it was easy enough.
I even made sure my stomach was empty before i started  :rolleyes:

Yeah i strained it man, now that would be bad if i didn't.

Even low quality cactus should do something at 60grams tho shouldn't it ?.
It feels like its trying to but i know how strong placebo can be.

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Re: Quick Cactus Question ? [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5699893 - 06/01/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, even low quality should feel *something* at that dose.

Was it bitter?

The part where you said it smelled like jam really threw me off.


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Re: Quick Cactus Question ? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5699967 - 06/01/06 02:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It was bitter but not overpowering.
My mum used to make jam and it smelt abit like that, maybe that was the lemon juice in it though.

You could tell from looking at the dried flakes it was definately the right stuff, it was packed and labeled properly.

I'm still not high off it though, theres definately something wrong.
I don't know what to expect from it cos its my first attempt. Things look alittle weird sometimes, things vibrate abit ( placebo maybe ).
Maybe its just on the threshold.

I think i'll look for another supplier next time !

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Re: Quick Cactus Question ? [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5700012 - 06/01/06 03:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You can't tell if it's the right stuff by looking at it. What if it was the wrong cactus? One sponsor had completely bunk stuff for a long time. They eventually just stopped carrying it all together. People would take up to 150g and feel *nothing*. So yeah, it happens.

The smell was surely the lemon juice. That makes more sense. The bitterness could've been almost completely lemon juice too.


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Re: Quick Cactus Question ? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5700068 - 06/01/06 03:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I know you carn't tell exactly but it looked about right.
It could of been some other cacti.

If it is something else then thats a waste of everyones time. I carn't see why they would grow some random cacti then sell it on as san pedro, when its perfectly legal to grow the real stuff.

I guess this shit happens tho.
Selling dodgy stock is well out of order in any case.

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Re: Quick Cactus Question ? [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5700207 - 06/01/06 03:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

There are plenty of cacti that look simillar. It could've just been T. Cuzcoensis, which is what you get the majority of the time (this can be disputed, but it's an overwhelming amount of the time. Also known as Peruvianus kk242. classification isn't my point here) when you buy live Peruvian torch cacti in the states. There are nurseries that raise these from seed by the hundred. It wouldn't surprise me if someone hacked some down, or imported otherwise bunk cacti.

The sponsor I mentioned sold useless torch for about a year. People would post about taking more and more, still with no effects. They must've sold 10's of kilograms of it easily, and not a single person ever reported it working. It may have for someone, but there isn't a shred of evidence on these forums, or others i've read. And yes, it's obviously cactus matter, no one doubts that. The sponsor then got some alleged bridgesii skin. Again, people complained of it doing little, but it seemed that a few people did indeed feel something, so it wasn't as bad as their 'torch' but still pretty awful.

Now, they carry no such material. Could be legal reasons, could be because they were undoubtedly gaining a reputation of selling something as useful as paint chips. I won't post the sponsor's name publically, as they made a number of attempts to set things right. It isn't about them, just the fact that there is or was some source with MASSIVE amounts of of bunk stuff. If you want to know which source it was, pm I guess.


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Re: Quick Cactus Question ? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5700422 - 06/01/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It was definately bunk stuff, i feel something but im really tired aswell which is not right.

Im friendly with the people in my headshop so i'll ask them about it next time im in. Its unlike them to sell shady stock.

Ideally i could do with growing some of my own, getting hold of young cacti over here is expensive unless i can find one in a nursery somewhere.
Maybe get some seeds but im limited because i carn't buy online.

There's one reputable British online company trying to sell 1cm tall pedros for 20 pound ( 37 dollars ). I don't know if thats good or not but it seems alittle steep !

Anyway, looks like ive been ripped this time !
Nevermind  :rolleyes:

Nice talking to you anyway, thanks for your info  :thumbup:

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