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Caking vs Casing
    #5684348 - 05/28/06 07:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

After reading teks of both extensively, it would seem that casing is not only easier, but cheaper. What do you think? Is there a significant time difference between techniques?


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: Cuban]
    #5684355 - 05/28/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Casing seems to be more prefered around these parts-just because of yield I guess.

Really depends on what you have to work with ie room, stealth or no stealth, money etc.


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: toole]
    #5684361 - 05/28/06 07:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well, living in a church could be a problem for stealth, however my uptight roommate moved out for the summer. So I'll have plenty of time for mushrooms, and when he come back I can always tell him that they're Shittakes. He HATES mushrooms, so he'd never know. Though drying could be a problem.


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: Cuban]
    #5684367 - 05/28/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Just get a plastic shelf tote deally - they're fairly inexpensive. They are like 2 and 3 tiered dressers. Try to get a more opaque one if possible and use the different shelves for different stages - or use a full 2-3 drawers for a single environment.

There are plenty of ways to be a white-thumb and a ninja.


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: Cuban]
    #5684368 - 05/28/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

BTW, I just realized that in none of the teks I read was there an indication of how many cakes per area for casing. Any thoughts?


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: Cuban]
    #5684372 - 05/28/06 07:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Great idea! Though what about the fruiting chamber having a clear lid?


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: Cuban]
    #5684378 - 05/28/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

If you're using a tall space for the FC, you can put an artifical light insdie-if not you can use the top tier as the FC possible, but that might be a tight squeeze; anyways as the top layer you could keep it partially exposed or such, keep a light on them 12 on/12 off.


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: toole]
    #5684393 - 05/28/06 07:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

But to keep the FC simple you can make it seperate and put in a Rubbermaid Tub with a clear lid.


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: Cuban]
    #5684718 - 05/28/06 09:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I wonder if using a blue light would work better or the same as a white light, theoretically I suppose it would be the same.


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: Cuban]
    #5684733 - 05/28/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well being that they are no plants only need the light sequence to initiate pinning I'd imagine you'd be ok-someone else might have to throw their 2cents on that one though.


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: Cuban]
    #5684798 - 05/28/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm been searching the posts and the teks for a good desc of a FC but coming up short. Ideas?


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: Cuban]
    #5684799 - 05/28/06 10:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Cuban said:
I wonder if using a blue light would work better or the same as a white light, theoretically I suppose it would be the same.



I have never noticed any difference in yield.


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: hyphae]
    #5684830 - 05/28/06 10:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Isnt it the more light the casing gets the more chance for pins to form


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: Cuban]
    #5684861 - 05/28/06 10:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

hyphae-nice write up and pics on the whole room FC
Is an FC essentially just a clear box with a light kept at appropriate RH and temp. I'd rather go with lava rocks for sake of mess and as far as a heating element is considered, I'm lost on rigging it.


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: Cuban]
    #5684870 - 05/28/06 10:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Don't forget about humidity it's very important.


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: Cuban]
    #5684930 - 05/28/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

good point


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: Cuban]
    #5685903 - 05/29/06 09:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Temp most likely shouldn't be a big deal just find a location where ambient air temps fall between upper 60's and upper 70's. Cuban that is exactly what an FC is. Legalize247 light intensity as well as duration does trigger pinning depending on how much. Light intensity can be over done (HID lighting) and durations over 16hrs. make no difference except costing you electricity (making someone else rich). Use your heads guys and always think does this make mycosense?


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Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: hyphae]
    #5685924 - 05/29/06 09:28 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

hyphae said:
Use your heads guys and always think does this make mycosense?




Haha-that's the real question now isn't it?


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: Cuban]
    #5686173 - 05/29/06 11:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

So, incubation chamber vs FC, seems like FC is the harder setup. Anyone care to explain why you fan the casings? Just replenishing oxygen? How long?


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Re: Caking vs Casing [Re: Cuban]
    #5687267 - 05/29/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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So, incubation chamber vs FC, seems like FC is the harder setup. Anyone care to explain why you fan the casings? Just replenishing oxygen? How long?



It's not replenishing the oxygen actually it simply the lowering of the lowering of the CO2 concentrations remember we only breathe around 21% oxygen and roughly 78% nitrogen if that helps you understand this better. Fanning duration only need be 15-20 seconds, read my pinning strategy to learn more.


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