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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Quantum Thinking
    #5669945 - 05/24/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Human beings are supposed to be quantum computers.

But many in many instances, they tend to think like binary computers.

This is a step down.

To a binary computer, everything is either or. Everything is cause and effect. If this, Then that. 1 or 0.

That's fine for figuring out math problems, but life is not a math problem! It entails a few math problems, but it is not one in itself.

According to quantum principles, the universe is not digital, it is analoque. It is not an on off switch, it is a volume knob that goes infinitely in all directions.

Aren't you glad you aren't a computer? They are slaves! You are free. SO STOP THINKING LIKE A COMPUTER!

thank you

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5669990 - 05/24/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

well, quantum computers, theoretically, wouldn't work completely analog either.

The overall theme of QM is that things can be both on and off/here and there

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5670010 - 05/24/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

OK, you're right. The universe is digital and analogue. I use digital things all the time. Like the computer I'm typing this out on, and the body I'm using to type it with.

but digital thinking is no use in figuring out the higher mysteries of life.

Digital, binary things are typically slaves. Slaves to cause and effect, slaves to consequence. Slaves to bigoted thinking.

People must see past the opposites to see the true source behind all things. Then they will realize that opposites are equal.

I like analogue things just because I know that I can't fully control them, and their possibilities are endless!

Why would I want a friend to be digital? I don't need anymore slaves!

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5670016 - 05/24/06 07:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

so,
so,
that is exactly the same as if-then
if -so
anyway we are not quantum computers we are associative recognizers capable of script tracking.

so, as you were
relax


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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5670022 - 05/24/06 07:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

you are wrong

free your mind

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5670031 - 05/24/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ha
accepted
with the rest
quantum could never take it
see,
ha!
prolly not


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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5670049 - 05/24/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

whatever helps you sleep at night, dear

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5670077 - 05/24/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Actually, your mind is based on the release and uptake of neurotransmitters which is based on molecular interactions driven by entropy with a degree of "randomness" and can be affected by a plethora of forces such as electromagnetism and even possibly the gravitational exertion of the moon as it comes around in orbit.

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: Catalysis]
    #5670090 - 05/24/06 08:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Human thought is not binary. It's emotional.

Newton's universe, the one we happen to live in and understand, is pretty much this or that.


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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: Catalysis]
    #5670140 - 05/24/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Catalysis said:
Actually, your mind is based on the release and uptake of neurotransmitters which is based on molecular interactions driven by entropy with a degree of "randomness" and can be affected by a plethora of forces such as electromagnetism and even possibly the gravitational exertion of the moon as it comes around in orbit.




there's a little more to it than that.

just a little, but a very important little!

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5671657 - 05/25/06 05:55 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

and what little is that ?

the quantum tubules : P

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5671761 - 05/25/06 07:10 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Digital can emulate analog accurately, whereas analog cannot emulate digital. But, what does this have to do with anything? *shrug*

Computers are purely rational machines. So, are you saying do not be rational? And if so, what is that supposed to mean? Spit out meaningless jargon which you pretend to live by? If so, I would say most humans do live irrationally, and that rationality is the line crossed towards true spirituality. Illusions of grandeur all over the place.


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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: psyka]
    #5673347 - 05/25/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

psyka said:
Digital can emulate analog accurately, whereas analog cannot emulate digital. But, what does this have to do with anything? *shrug*




Actually thats false, digital can approximate analog. Digital is Analog, its just how you interpret the signal. 3-5 volts pk to pk is a 1, 0-2 is a 0. Its all just analog however.

And I doubt quantum effects even enter into the brain, neruons are just far too big. There are potential differences in the brain, and that is what triggers neurons, but quantum effects controlling the brain dont seem very likely. Also quantum computers are probabilistic, and they need binary computers to feed them data usually. The QC part is usually just one stage of an algorithm.

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: fresh313]
    #5673405 - 05/25/06 03:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

fresh313 said:
and what little is that ?

the quantum tubules : P




the Spirit within us all

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5674029 - 05/25/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

According to quantum principles, the universe is not digital, it is analoque.

QM says nothing of the sort, and in fact it is founded on the idea of discrete energy packets - digital.

All energy comes as individual and indivisible packets of energy, like photons of light. Even the properties of the individual packets have a digital nature. Electrons can only have 1/2 spin, not 1/3 or 0.635 or even 1...just 1/2.

That seems like the makings of a digital universe to me.


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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: trendal]
    #5674066 - 05/25/06 06:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

"Analogue" doesn't really exist - it's just how large masses of digital bits appear to us (we ourselves being large masses of bits). It's a matter of precision.

The glass on my monitor appears to be a smooth, solid mass of glass, but I know that if I were to view it on a microscopic scale it would consist of individual bits of matter - not a truly consistent whole.


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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: trendal]
    #5674263 - 05/25/06 07:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

you're thinking in dangerous ways, my friend

yes, the universe is many things

but truly, it is only ONE thing

Its a wave

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5674339 - 05/25/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

DoctorJ said:
you're thinking in dangerous ways, my friend



Says the Shroomery's own whacky street preacher.


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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: Silversoul]
    #5674366 - 05/25/06 07:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The wackyest DJ on earth and the seven heavens.  :hitlerdance: :blindfury: :pinkelephant: :monkeydance: :gethigh: :lecture: :courtjester: :kott: :dopefish: :blackeye: :twitchy: :yakko: :voila:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5674413 - 05/25/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Care to explain just what is dangerous about my thinking?

Or are you satisfied with the vague rhetoric?


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