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SDP
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Keep getting black mold... clean jars better?
#5669069 - 05/24/06 03:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey. I keep getting most of my jars contamed with this black mold... its very frustrating. I wash my jars with dawn + a brush, then dishwasher. Is this enough? Thanks for any input...
-SDP
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Edited by SDP (05/24/06 03:08 PM)
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lowdominion
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Re: Keep getting black mold... clean jars better? [Re: SDP]
#5669083 - 05/24/06 03:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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are you pcing?
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lemon_lw
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Re: Keep getting black mold... clean jars better? [Re: lowdominion]
#5669180 - 05/24/06 03:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah man it really doesnt matter how well you clean them cause when you pc it kils everythig off. i would say its you inoc technique if i had to guess
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Re: Keep getting black mold... clean jars better? [Re: lowdominion]
#5669228 - 05/24/06 03:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
lowdominion said: are you pcing?
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splifner180
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Re: Keep getting black mold... clean jars better? [Re: Atheist]
#5669303 - 05/24/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Agreed. PCing ought to kill off anything. Me, I just rinse them out and use the dishwasher. I'm sure they've got contams in them when they go into the PC but not when they come out.
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Re: Keep getting black mold... clean jars better? [Re: splifner180]
#5669405 - 05/24/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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if you are pcing i thjink that they may just get black mold simply cus theres a lot of black mold spores in ther air in your house.
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SDP
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Re: Keep getting black mold... clean jars better? [Re: MrMolotov]
#5669489 - 05/24/06 05:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yea, im PCing. I think its my inoculation method (and its definately the air, ive had a couple black mold powder explosions). Im going to work on creating a more sterile enviroment for inoculation (maybe a glovebox)
-SDP
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Re: Keep getting black mold... clean jars better? [Re: SDP]
#5670554 - 05/24/06 10:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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isn't black mold lethal? or does it just sound lethal
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SDP
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Re: Keep getting black mold... clean jars better? [Re: Jack_Straw]
#5671110 - 05/25/06 12:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i dunno but i feel like im ganna dieeee if I inhale the black mold powder.
-SDP
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Re: Keep getting black mold... clean jars better? [Re: SDP]
#5671888 - 05/25/06 08:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nearly all molds can be dangerous if you inhale the spores, especially for people with compromised immune systems. Trichoderma, Cladosporium, and Aspergillis, which are common mushroom contaminants, have all been found growing in the lungs of people with AIDS, or people weakened by recent surgery.
Build a glovebox or flowhood. If you have green or black molds, or molds of any kind actually, they were introduced post-pasteurization/sterilization. RR
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Re: Keep getting black mold... clean jars better? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#6463340 - 01/15/07 06:11 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't have a pc, and i tried steaming them. But I'm also gettin black mold or so it looks like it. How can i effectively kill all the bacteria without using a pc?
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Re: Keep getting black mold... clean jars better? [Re: ilikemysupra]
#6463379 - 01/15/07 06:22 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mold problems are usually not related to the sterilization process because they die off at a temperature well below boiling. If you're using pf tek and followed the directions on boiling, I'll venture a guess to say the mold got in during the inoculation process, or after. If the mold starts from the inoculation points, that would confirm it. If your dry verm barrier got wet in the boiling process, the bacteria could have colonized from the holes right through it. Try to see where it first starts. That will lead to the solution. RR
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Re: Keep getting black mold... clean jars better? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#6463975 - 01/15/07 08:54 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I had mad problems with black mold at one time. Its a nice voracious mold isnt it? What kind of lids do you have for your jars? Either the molds getting in while you innoc your jars or its coming through your filter. Im saying filter... its what happened to me. And yeah black mold likes to explode when you try to dump your jars. BTW are you doing grains or PF Jars? Get the round filters from myco supply bro, they are a little pricy but they work. since i started using them no more black mold trouble! PERIOD!
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Re: Keep getting black mold... clean jars better? [Re: Madox_01]
#6467105 - 01/16/07 06:34 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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build an 8 dollar still air glovebox and see if that helps
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Re: Keep getting black mold... clean jars better? [Re: odium33]
#6473410 - 01/18/07 01:19 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm doing injection ports on all grain jars now. I used to have a huge problem with black mold. But now as long as my LC is clean, I get no black mold (or other mold) in any of my jars.
For the LC, I'm now using old SOBE bottles with an injection port installed in the cap. I'm using aquarium silicone (pet area in walmart) and/or these rubber stoppers for the port: http://www.labwarehouse.com/lw/category.cfm?category=50
For my next batch, I am going to place a bamboo skewer in the SOBE bottle and only fill it 1/2 with liquid. The idea is that the skewer will colonize, and I will just use the injection port to add additional liquid nutrient as needed. The skewer should become the source for the colonization of the LC, giving a near endless supply of LC with minimal senescence.
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Re: Keep getting black mold... clean jars better? [Re: pokermush]
#6486580 - 01/22/07 04:56 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not saying this is true for all, but on my last go-around I had wetspot and black mold appeared.I was getting some pretty rapid mycelium growth also.I left the the jars alone and the mycelium overtook the contaminates and I got some great casings out of the deal!Is there mycelium growth in a greater ratio to the black mold?If so, I would give it a chance to grow a little.Your gonna toss it anyway, right?
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