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carnage
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PC drying out Rye jars

#5619678 - 05/11/06 11:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Does anybody else have this problem and/or a remedy for it? I PC @ 15 psi for 1 hour. Can I PC any less time and still acheive sterilization? When I remove my rye jars, they grains look crispy, and they're dehydrated to the point that mycelium can't grow.

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monstermitch
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Re: PC drying out Rye jars

[Re: carnage]
#5619803 - 05/12/06 12:35 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

what is your lid set up?

are you releasing the steam yourself when done or allow to sit for a while and cool?

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dysphoria
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Re: PC drying out Rye jars

[Re: monstermitch]
#5619978 - 05/12/06 01:53 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i wouldn't suggest pc'ing for any less time than an hour, to be honest.
its kinda vital to kill all the bad things, and that requires an hour. =/
as for your problem, based off what little info i know about your setup, it sounds like you're possibly running out of water. most of the rye berry water content is gonna come from you boiling it (simmering, not in pressure cooker), or directly adding water to the grain and then pressure cooking it. so if you're simmering your grains to field capacity, and yet still managing to dry the jars out, my only conclusion is a faulty pressure cooker that isn't sealing/keeping water in, or dry grains to begin with, that dry out a lil further once you cook them in the p.c.
anyway, hope something in that long winded spiel helps.

-jb

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MasFina
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Re: PC drying out Rye jars

[Re: dysphoria]
#5620067 - 05/12/06 03:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I was having the same problem, glad to hear I'm not alone on this.

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dysphoria
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Re: PC drying out Rye jars

[Re: MasFina]
#5620113 - 05/12/06 04:13 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

can either of you shed light on why you two might be having problems?
i.e. what kind of pc do you use, gauge or bobble-top...how old is it, does it seal well, is there water still in teh bottom after you're done...do you let the steam out when its done at exactly 60 min, or do you let it de-pressurize slowly? do you use tyvek filter disks with only the metal band, or do you use the metal lid too, with holes in it? ...answer some of these questions so we can help you guys =/

-jb

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Re: PC drying out Rye jars

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#5620137 - 05/12/06 04:26 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

bobble top-brand new
water yes
slow depreserization
tyvek with metal lid and metal band
inoc hole and two 1/4" holes for gas exchange
I boiled instead of simmering and then soaked for 12 hours, rinsed well, drained and PCed. Thats about it

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Re: PC drying out Rye jars

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#5620157 - 05/12/06 04:42 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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