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OfflineDoctorJ
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god has no needs
    #5595019 - 05/05/06 05:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

he only has desires.

and its a good thing, too!

because if he didn't desire your existence, you wouldn't be here.

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Re: god has no needs [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5595025 - 05/05/06 05:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Who cares?


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: god has no needs [Re: Icelander]
    #5595037 - 05/05/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i do

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Re: god has no needs [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5595060 - 05/05/06 05:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Then why are you telling me that I wouldn't be here if god didn't care. :grin:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: god has no needs [Re: Icelander]
    #5596522 - 05/06/06 12:11 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
Who cares?



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Re: god has no needs [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5596581 - 05/06/06 12:31 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

God has no desires, for desiring requires the mind, and the mind is only a deception. The mind is not truth.


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Edited by AlteredAgain (05/06/06 12:33 AM)

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Re: god has no needs [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #5596586 - 05/06/06 12:33 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

you are correct, and so am I

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Re: god has no needs [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5596608 - 05/06/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

If God desired, you could be correct. But what if God made a mistake and accidentally allowed us to exist? You would still be here reading this very post, yet how would you then have any way of knowing whether or not God desired this?


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Re: god has no needs [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #5596771 - 05/06/06 01:51 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

god makes no mistakes

it only appears that way, because your view of him is blocked by his servants

"The greatest skill appears clumsy."

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Re: god has no needs [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5596972 - 05/06/06 05:14 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

He: Usage Problem. Used to refer to a person whose gender is unspecified or unknown: “He who desires but acts not, breeds pestilence” (William Blake).

...God is but God!

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Re: god has no needs [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5597036 - 05/06/06 06:29 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

God isn't so confused to mix desire and care. Love is not equal desire, because that's selfish. G*d is not.
If he* loves us so much that he* allowed our physical existence, as he* made us, to gain free will (like him*), his* care was to place us in the garden of eden (what was the rational uninfluenced nature imo).
What we make out of his* care is up to us. If we misuse his* trust for our evil (unreturned trust by inflated egos), then god doesn't care as he* loves to see us grow and cares for us to make decisions for ourselves and all his creations care, learning from our mistakes, what in time is returning his* trust back to him.

*=he/she/it - his/her/its

So g*d has neither needs nor desires.


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'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: god has no needs [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5597258 - 05/06/06 09:19 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

DoctorJ said:
he only has desires.

and its a good thing, too!

because if he didn't desire your existence, you wouldn't be here.





Wrong sir very wrong.

God is love and love has no desires

Desire is born from wants
Wants are born form self
Self is not love


Love is accpetance of...............everthing as it is.
Love can not desire anything
Love is God and God loves all as it is.


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Re: god has no needs [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #5597267 - 05/06/06 09:26 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

acceptance is born from ...


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Re: god has no needs [Re: NariusFractal]
    #5597273 - 05/06/06 09:28 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

God


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What it is, is what it is my Brother.
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Re: god has no needs [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #5597326 - 05/06/06 09:52 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Fucknuckle said:
Quote:

DoctorJ said:
he only has desires.

and its a good thing, too!

because if he didn't desire your existence, you wouldn't be here.





Wrong sir very wrong.






biogted sir very bigoted.

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Re: god has no needs [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5597480 - 05/06/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

DoctorJ said:
god makes no mistakes.




Mistakes and desires only surface because of the mind. Cut away the mind, and both disappear.

God is not desire. Mind is not truth.

Catch my drift?  :wink:


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