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Invisiblemjshroomer
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Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site
    #5550803 - 04/24/06 11:23 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

THis morning I was sent an email from the owners of Musrbox, spores 101, Innersight Trading and shroomtalk.com regarding the rip off of several peoples copyrighted materials and photos and text. And of not sending products to the people who ordered from them. They are in the Midwest U.S.A.

http://www.buzzgrower.com/links.html

As for the rip off on me, they excised 90% and about 30 or more of my images from:
erowid.org

site which is the copyrighted material of Erowid, me and the owners of Shroomster Enterprises (m.J.'s Shroom World site on the Australian and New Zealand guide to shrooms.

Shroom Talk web-site administrater Mushbox just sent me an email regarding this matter which they said also used their product packaging and several of their marketing phrases and writings to promote this company and make it look legiotimate..

This site is a bad place so watch out for them.

mj

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InvisibleRoadkillM
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: mjshroomer]
    #5550834 - 04/24/06 11:36 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

John,

that link that you posted isn't working for me.



tc


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Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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OfflineSpores_101
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: Roadkill]
    #5550858 - 04/24/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

www.buzzgrower.com and their affiliates www.sporemagic.com and www.buzzmagic.com

MJ isnt kidding these guys are def nothing but a scam operation. They approached us a long time ago about drop shipments and when we helped them out a little they never paid up and then kept our images on their sites. It turns out an old employee of theirs got back in contact with us to let us know that they werent even shipping the items they had on the site. She claimed they were blatently ripping people off. I don't know how true this was since she was involved with them in the first place but I have heard nothing but bad things ever since.

BE CAUTIOUS!!!

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Invisiblemjshroomer
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: Roadkill]
    #5551012 - 04/24/06 12:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hio Roadkill, I just clicked on that very link from my post here and it works perfectly.

Try some of the links given b by Spores 101. Then look for the general info click ontheir home page or for the links page hook yup on their listr of click-ons, but the one in my post wirks form my site to theirs.

They completely ripped off a lot of peoles images and such.

mj

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InvisibleLana
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: mjshroomer]
    #5551039 - 04/24/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, after putting things together, they have a mailing address in

BG Inc PO Box 132
Comstock Park, MI 49321

Well, last I heard it was illegal to ship or sell cannabis seeds within the USA.

I can smell a pinch about to occur.

Be aware.

Lana


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Invisiblegiz
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: Lana]
    #5551092 - 04/24/06 01:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

well all 4 links provided on this thread is dead so i guess problem has been solved somehow.

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OfflinegrimR
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: giz]
    #5551424 - 04/24/06 03:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

They ripped me off a few weeks ago. They also own the domain www.shroomsnmore.com so look out for that one.

[...] Personal information removed. -Y [...]

They also own miniwheels.net which has the same registration info. The only thing that seems to change here is their contact emails and phone numbers (assumed fake). I am sure they do this to be able to setup once again at a new location without people recognizing the email addresses as a scam.

Anyways after all this I went to Spores101 and they went out of their way to help me even threw in an extra :smile:


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Edited by Ythan (11/28/06 11:31 AM)

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Invisiblemjshroomer
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: giz]
    #5551441 - 04/24/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I was just again able to pen the3 klink to the page form my site.

at this link:

http://www.buzzgrower.com/links.html

mj

O am going to take a picture of the top part of the page and post it since it is a long page I cannot post all of the pages.





WEll for some reason this site opens every page up on my computer when I go to the url's and the ones osted by spores 101.

So I wonder why you all cannot open the page.

mj

I think you can click on the bottom image. I sent them a warning this morn and so did Nexus of Shroomstrer and a third letter was sent to Erowid about the matter.

but the site will open from my computer.

Their source is powered by Site Studio

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Invisiblegiz
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: mjshroomer]
    #5551481 - 04/24/06 03:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yes well now they work for me, maybe the page was just down for a while earlier.

Sorry about your images btw. Always sad to see people steal from others honest work.

peace

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InvisibleHamstercut
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: giz]
    #5551581 - 04/24/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

....contact the shroomery assassin at once!

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OfflineHabitual_Liar
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: Hamstercut]
    #5551603 - 04/24/06 04:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Buzzgrower ripped me off in September. I hassled them till February then I joined shroomery and got in touch with legit vendors. I never saw any products from buzzgrower and they stole $150.00 from me. Oh well you live and you learn.

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OfflineHighGuy
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: Habitual_Liar]
    #5553617 - 04/25/06 12:58 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hmmm I live near there... maybe I will pay them a visit.


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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: mjshroomer]
    #5555379 - 04/25/06 03:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I have been in contact with them, to see how they respond.  I told them I wanted to buy the most expensive kit they have via email here is transcript.  I think I'm gonna tell em I live right by them and I wanna pick it up.  It starts from the bottom and goes up.  I would like to get an email that I can get an address from.



My latest email
My parents are home right now and don't like when people they don't know call, even though I'm 22.  My cell phone only has like 3 minutes left, if possible just give me your business #, or I'll email you tommorow with my phone #. 


chelenic billing <billingviapp@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay, I am emailing you back, so sendme your numberwhenever you get a chance.

thanks
bgbilling

<twigburst@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ok no problem, I saw a pic of your setup on another site www.mushbox.com, I was guessing that you guys are the same people, or get the set from the same people and you set is cheaper on your site anyway.  If not these people are stealing your ideas and selling the sets themselves.  Please email me back, i'll give you my # tommorow as its late and I might be at work, home, or out so I wanna know which # to give you.  Thanks for the swift response I can't wait to get the setup and start growing legal mushrooms :smile:

chelenic billing <billingviapp@yahoo.com> wrote: we do not use western union. you can talk to us on the phone and use a money order. that is the best that I can do. also, when you use western union they charge outrageous fees. send me your phone number and I will give you a call.

thanks
bgbilling

<twigburst@yahoo.com> wrote:
I would like to place an order for several hundred dollars, but I would like to get in touch with you guys before I order.  I want the queen kit, but I am worried about using a MO and I don't have a cc.  I would rather use western union.

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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: twiggedoubt]
    #5555384 - 04/25/06 03:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Also, this is proof that your warning did no good, he is still trying to rip people off.

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OfflineSpores_101
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: twiggedoubt]
    #5555394 - 04/25/06 03:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

wow...cool idea Twigg - keep us posted on these crooks.

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Invisiblemjshroomer
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: Spores_101]
    #5555653 - 04/25/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Fire from Erowid has finally sent them a warning.

Here is Fire's letter to me about his t letter to them:

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Hey John,

Thanks for the additional info.  I've sent them a started letter asking
them to remove the article.  I'll give them a few days in which to
hopefully
respond...and if they don't then I'll send another more formal letter.

Will let you know if / when I hear anything.

peace,
fire

Fire just sent me now this s 2nd letter regarding the matter concerning my pages.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Well, that was fast.  The buzzgrower.com site replied to me in an
hour and said that they would remove the article within 24 hours. 
They said that they received it from a secondary source and didn't
realize it was copyrighted...and they apologized.

Which is all amusing if you've tried contacting them before.  But
whatever the reason, hopefully they'll just remove it and it will be
resolved.  :smile:

peace,
fire

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

mj

later more

I will post their letter

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OfflineSpores_101
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: mjshroomer]
    #5556671 - 04/25/06 10:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Because they are reading this very thread.

Every single one of those kit pics are from my camera a little more then 2 years ago. I appreciate what the community has done to try and thwart these villans. Anything I can do to help just let me know.

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Offlinejlocke85
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: Spores_101]
    #5558256 - 04/26/06 11:17 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

spores101: Isn't this image on your site, the same as this one? Or was that Fungi Perfecti who stole it?

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Offlinedr0mni
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: jlocke85]
    #5558735 - 04/26/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

is there any way to actually stop scams like this?

I mean, I got ripped off by legal-highs. org like two years ago, and I know that they are still running, even though it's well known that they are a scam! Can't we at least report them for false advertising?

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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: dr0mni]
    #5559153 - 04/26/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Better Buisness Buro?
I was thinking this earlier - If you were really ballsy and wanted to admit what you were buying...

Then I bet they could probably do something about it.


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