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 flavored composting 
#5546058 - 04/23/06 12:26 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I read somewhere once that you can compost blueberries, and plants grown with that will pick up the taste of blueberries. I was wondering what it'd take to make a compost that had pineapples,mangos, and cherries. I was thinking that those fruits were highly acidic and you'd have to nuetralize the acidity somehow.
Also, how do different strains have different tastes like pineapple and such naturally in the genetics? Are they bred in somehow? What the hell is that about? I know if you grow in a compost it'll pick up some of the elements of the flavors in the compost, but that's not at all the same.
Edited by Paradis (04/23/06 04:25 AM)
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 Re: flavored composting [Re: Anonymous]
#5546445 - 04/23/06 02:52 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've never heard about such a thing, it sounds pretty neat!
Of course I'd probably rather whip up a batch of artificial flavoring and inject it into the plant 
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Re: flavored composting [Re: Konnrade]
#5546663 - 04/23/06 04:27 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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You could just root feed it some water with artificial flavoring in it a few days before you cut it down, but then it's gonna taste like artificial flavoring, not the subtle essence of the real fruit.
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Re: flavored composting [Re: Anonymous]
#5547602 - 04/23/06 02:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've just smoked the first sample of my Hashberry (Hashplant x Blueberry) weed plant, and it really does taste like blueberrys!! Especialy the after taste. Not sure how its bred to taste that way, but its lovely. Taste in my mouth is like I ate a blueberry muffin a few minutes ago. Plus the slightly piney taste of the hashplant genes.
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Re: flavored composting [Re: DrJ]
#5548191 - 04/23/06 05:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't think that they breed it to taste like blueberry from the start, or else we would have watermelon/strawberry flavored buds and such. I think that they noticed subtle hints of the flavor and bred plants that best exhibited this flavor in order to get a stabalized flavored bud that happened to be flavored like blueberry.
My assumption, please correct me if I am totally wrong.
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Re: flavored composting [Re: whatever123]
#5548278 - 04/23/06 05:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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pretty much spot on W123. The first breeders liked the taste of a certain plant they grew so they bred it and isolated the tasty gene.
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Re: flavored composting [Re: whatever123]
#5548307 - 04/23/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Plants are a product of the habitat, they take in things grown its environment.
Thats why wine has such a variation from location to location. Same thing with cheeses and the fungi that cure and age the cheese, each strain of fungi from cave to cave is virtually the same but has embodied certain characteristics of the land.
So though i am skeptic of the blueberry compost, in essence i see that maybe certain chemicals and elements found only in blue berries maybe synthesized into the plant.
But then again they wouldn't be passed onto further generations grown in different locations with different media.
Blueberry bud and blue moonshine exhibit the flavor where ever and in what ever they are grown.
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...Now I want watermelong or strawberry bud!
We need our top cannabis scientists to develop marijuana strains that taste like watermelon, strawberry, bananna, apple.....all the fun fruits!
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Re: flavored composting [Re: whatever123]
#5548484 - 04/23/06 06:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Or you could just add some artificial flavoring, you know.
I don't know if those flavorings stand up to heat well enough to be smoked, but if they can, you can flavor your bud however you like 
Those flavorings are easy to synthesize, too. Hell, I need to go dig up the chemistry info on that. I made the stuff in high school, I might as well whip up a batch in the home lab.
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Re: flavored composting [Re: Anonymous]
#5548505 - 04/23/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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selective breeding is key, id just find seeds with the genetics u want.
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Re: flavored composting [Re: SubGen1us]
#5548617 - 04/23/06 06:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Selective breeding is one way, but with it you are sort of limited on flavors, or how much you can get the smoke to resemble the flavor you want. With blueberry, people probably thought "hey, this tastes a lot like blueberry, as does this plant" and bred them until they came up with a blueberry plant. The problem is that you are limited to the tastes that you find, not the tastes that you want. It would be cool if somehow someone could engineer a strain whose bud tasted strongly like kiwi or something, or whatever flavor the person desired.
I am not sure if the way I am saying this is too vague, but do you get what I mean?
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Re: flavored composting [Re: SubGen1us]
#5548622 - 04/23/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wonder if they set out to create a blueberry taste? I bet it was by accident though.
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Re: flavored composting [Re: DrJ]
#5548635 - 04/23/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Probably not accident, but they just noticed that certain plants tasted blueberry-ish, so they bred them to get a plant where the blueberry was very distinct.
Of course, they very well may have created the inital plant that tasted blueberry-ish without intending to.
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Re: flavored composting [Re: DrJ]
#5548817 - 04/23/06 07:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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The story of the creation of blueberry has been documented i think DJShort was the creator.
He then goes on to describe the floral notes and classifications of tastes and scents cannabis exhibit. Then tells how to select plants based on the traits you note.
They noted in a plants offspring the notes of berry, they then bred it with its parents, selecting offspring that had the same scents. They then bred it until it was a stable strain.
With a strict scientific guidline of selecting what you want and the room to grow 100+ plants at a time you could create what ever you set out to.
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im not sure about artificial flavoring.... does that mean add blueberry juice to water when irrigating? does this work?? im excited, i must say!
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Re: flavored composting [Re: impgl]
#5549267 - 04/23/06 09:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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All I know is that food coloring sure didn't work!
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Re: flavored composting [Re: AKSE]
#5549316 - 04/23/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
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All I know is that food coloring sure didn't work!
haha, get some red buds, blue buds, orange buds......That would be cool.
Multicolored buds.
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Yeah, but mendelevian genetics is a real pain in the ass. Selective botanical breeding is not something that everyone has the patience for. It's an involved process and you have to wait for each generation to reach maturity before you can move on to the next step.
For most people who breed their own strains, it's a labor of love. They have the incentive to put up with it.
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Re: flavored composting [Re: Konnrade]
#5549416 - 04/23/06 09:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well cannabis breeding isn't for everyone. Thats why breeders do most of the work. Thats also why the selection of varieties is limited to what each breeder can handle.
as for the smaller breeder they just don't have the space or education to make all the proper selections of phenotypes to be able to totally isolate and enhance certain traits.
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Not to metion the time involved.
Over a year at least. And thats if you get it right first time.
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Edited by DrJ (04/24/06 12:28 AM)
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