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Coco Coir
    #5453095 - 03/28/06 09:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I am wondering if this is the same as Coco Coir? I went to a gardening/hydroponics type store today and asked for coco coir and they didnt seem too positvie about what I was taling about but they showed me a brick called "Coconut Fiber Potting Medium" I read in a tek that you dont want coconut fiber, but this looked exactly like a pic of coco coir I saw. I went ahead and hydrated a bit to show you what it looked like also.
One thing that I was concerned with also is that the label says "Resists bacterial mold and fungal growth", it also says pathogen free... so maybe no worrys? Anyhow I just want to be shure that this is the right stuff since it is my first coir casing. Thanks


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Re: Coco Coir [Re: endlesswinter77]
    #5453101 - 03/28/06 09:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Looks exactly like the coir I have been using after hydrating......


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Re: Coco Coir [Re: musher_420]
    #5453353 - 03/28/06 10:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

yea... welp im gonna go ahead and use it unless someone objects.... will find out if its the right stuff the hard way!


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Re: Coco Coir [Re: endlesswinter77]
    #5453464 - 03/28/06 10:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

When they say it's bacteria and fungal resistant I think it's because they add neem meal to the coir. I bought a twenty pound brick of coir that explicitly states that it contains neem meal as an anti mold, bacterial and fungal agent. The mycelium eats through it like there's no tomorrow. It should be fine unless they're adding antifungal chemicals instead of neem.


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Re: Coco Coir [Re: Mobius_Strip]
    #5453493 - 03/28/06 10:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I had just bought some bricks that said Coco fiber as well, dont know why they do that, but its def coco coir.



BTW. Isnt mycelium/mushrooms a fungai? So a fungai resistant substarte should also resist mycelium growth no....? I dont know i saw someone asking the other day about usinf 100% natural fungacide to kill bacteria, but i thought to myself that the mycelium itself is a bacteria! Am i going crazy?


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Re: Coco Coir [Re: Akira]
    #5453513 - 03/28/06 11:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

It's a crazy world.


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Re: Coco Coir [Re: Akira]
    #5453649 - 03/28/06 11:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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BTW. Isnt mycelium/mushrooms a fungai? So a fungai resistant substarte should also resist mycelium growth no....? I dont know i saw someone asking the other day about usinf 100% natural fungacide to kill bacteria, but i thought to myself that the mycelium itself is a bacteria! Am i going crazy?




Mycelium/mushrooms are definetly fungus. Bacteria is single celled while fungus is an organism created of multiple cells so they are different. Im guessing that since it was labled a fungicide, it would kill the mycelium though.


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Re: Coco Coir [Re: endlesswinter77]
    #5453735 - 03/29/06 12:01 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Not necessarily. Bleach is a fungicide, and it is often used to kill mycelial contams.


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Re: Coco Coir [Re: Bamaman]
    #5453778 - 03/29/06 12:10 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

A fungicide will prevent spore germination, but will not harm growing mycelium.

Fungus produces natural antibiotics, fungus is where we humans get antibiotics, like penicillin...


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Re: Coco Coir [Re: mycogirl]
    #5457618 - 03/29/06 11:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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A fungicide will prevent spore germination, but will not harm growing mycelium.

Fungus produces natural antibiotics, fungus is where we humans get antibiotics, like penicillin...



Nicely and simply stated.

The only way to know if it will work is to use it.  If your coir is unusually contam resistent but allows mycelium to propagate then wouldn't that be a good thing? So far my straw/poo/coir-neem combo's haven't infected. I'd like to think the neem meal is helping as it doesn't seem to hinder mycelial growth.  Only time, multiple flushes and well planned comparisons will tell. Happy colonizing! :mushroom2::sun::mushroom2:

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Re: Coco Coir [Re: Mobius_Strip]
    #5457633 - 03/29/06 11:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yep its the same.

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