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 buckallyall
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 Wax Paper 
#5429941 - 03/22/06 01:16 PM (18 years, 29 days ago) |
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Roger Rabbit posted something about wax paper helping casings pin. I was wondering if anyone know anything about this and how and why it  helps? thanks
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buckallyall
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 Re: Wax Paper [Re: Roadkill]
#5430003 - 03/22/06 01:32 PM (18 years, 29 days ago) |
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so does that mean since I have wax paper I dont need to spray? because it creates a micro-climate
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RogerRabbit said:
Change the sheet of wax paper for a new one every two to three days. DON'T MIST, it isn't necessary with wax paper. Just leave it in place. The fruits will push the wax paper up as they grow.
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No need to sray or for a casing layer....this is good cause i was having troubles with casing layers colonizing for some od reason..as if my myc was tired but it couldnt be tired cause its new..LOL but i might try this wax thing out..GJ RR!!
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Re: Wax Paper [Re: bongtoke]
#5430275 - 03/22/06 02:39 PM (18 years, 29 days ago) |
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Does this wax paper need to be directly touching the substrate? Also, does this not affect the air exchange? Im thinking of using this wax method on my tub in tub horse poo grow. I had bad luck with my last casing layer.
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Re: Wax Paper [Re: jtk]
#5430312 - 03/22/06 02:48 PM (18 years, 29 days ago) |
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jtk said:
my tub in tub horse poo grow.
?????  A "TIT" is usually used for an incubator. How are you using a "TIT" for fruiting h/poo? Do you just have your casings sitting in a separate tub?
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i mean double tub. My tub of substrate is going to be inside a larger tub with perlite in the bottom. does anyone know the ansewr to my wax paper questions?
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Re: Wax Paper [Re: jtk]
#5430479 - 03/22/06 03:26 PM (18 years, 29 days ago) |
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The wax paper should be loosely laid over the top of the substrate. Don't try to seal around the edges at all. For larger trays or bins, if you're afraid the paper will 'stick' to the substrate, simply wrinkle it up a bit before you lay it down. I've also used the metal rings from mason jars as a spacer to keep the wax paper just above the surface of the casing layer. You can remove the jar rings when the fruits are big enough to begin pushing the wax paper out of the way as they grow. This is also an excellent preventative for cracked caps if your humidity drops too low while you're away at work.
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RogerRabbit said:
The wax paper should be loosely laid over the top of the substrate.
I've also used the metal rings from mason jars as a spacer to keep the wax paper just above the surface of the casing layer. RR
You kinda confused me here. I think that you are using wax paper instead of a casing layer? Am I wrong?
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I wont answer for RR
But here is my take....
The wax paper really creates a great micro environment,
I think you can use this with a layer but one with out would really benefit from the wax paper more.
Since the layer also provides a micro environment.
my 2 cents
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buckallyall
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No, we are talking about putting a casing layer down then the wax paper on that to help it pin. He said it helps make its own climate.(basically)
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well if you read Roadkills link (and I always do 
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RogerRabbit said:
I never use a casing layer with horse manure. Just leave it covered with foil until the top is fully colonized. Then, uncover the foil and replace with a flat sheet of wax paper. The wax paper will serve as the 'casing' causing a humid microclimate below the paper, while letting light penetrate. Change the sheet of wax paper for a new one every two to three days. Don't mist, it isn't necessary with wax paper. Just leave it in place. The fruits will push the wax paper up as they grow.
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I just wanna see a pinset! I'm gonna go look for a pic now
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That is really interesting. I'm excited to give this a try.
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I just wanna see a pinset! I'm gonna go look for a pic now
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stelthvue
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so they get enough FAE with the wax paper?
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Why is everyone still using a casing layer?
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stelthvue
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i wont be on my next casing lol, thats for damn sure.
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RogerRabbit
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Wax paper works well with or without a casing layer. Also, in the link roadkill posted above I should have said I 'rarely' use a casing layer with horse manure instead of saying 'never'. Certain species such as pans really need a casing layer to fruit properly, and of course cubes will get much bigger with the added moisture of a casing layer.
Also, the wax paper won't supply moisture to your substrate the way a casing layer will. It only prevents excessive moisture loss and as said, provides a humid microclimate. Perhaps the best of both worlds is to use a thin casing layer along with a sheet of wax paper laying on top. Sorry for the confusion.
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Edited by RogerRabbit (03/23/06 06:46 AM)
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