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defcheck
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Ozone Generator
#5419110 - 03/19/06 03:23 PM (18 years, 14 days ago) |
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http://www.mold-kill.com/xtpower.html
I have been reading on this site about sterilizing a whole room using high ozone shock treatments. It says to take all living beings out of the room while preforming this shock.
Q: Would a high ozone shock be detrimental to mycelium? If so, to what degree of exposure?
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kit_kat
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Re: Ozone Generator [Re: defcheck]
#5419437 - 03/19/06 05:10 PM (18 years, 14 days ago) |
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I don't think it would affect mycelium, as far as I know it is only hazardous to animals. I was exposed to ozone once (very briefly) and it did some nasty damage to my lungs.
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blueferret
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Re: Ozone Generator [Re: kit_kat]
#5421057 - 03/20/06 01:27 AM (18 years, 14 days ago) |
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O3 aka Ozone in high concentrations might be damaging to mycellium if it is not protected by something like a casing layer the 3rd oxygen molecule is preaty unstable and likes to bond with what ever it can. I'm not sure though I'm not a chemist or an expert on Ozone just what I remeber from chem classes
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poboy
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It will kill it.
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DrAbominable
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Re: Ozone Generator [Re: poboy]
#5426432 - 03/21/06 05:45 PM (18 years, 12 days ago) |
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The pictures on that site are frightening. All that mold everywhere!!!!!!!!!
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defcheck
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I just bought an XT-6000. I'm going to use it on my entire house, and I'll run it continuosly in my grow room for 24 hours before I place my trays in the martha closets. I'll post contamination results.
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HippyInASuit
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Re: Ozone Generator [Re: defcheck]
#5578681 - 05/01/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ozone is hazardous to organic material. It will eat at your lungs and throat in high enough concentrations. I'm sure it would kill mycelium in large enough exposure too.
You say you are running this huge ozone generator to fill your entire home with ozone? Do you have any children or pets? What the hell are you thinking?
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Elemicin
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Yeah ozone is pretty toxic, it will kill anything organic assuming the concentration is high enough, at very low concentrations it is generally ok (low low low concentrations) that XT model is waay to powerful, you're going to fuck up your lungs. You're best using a UV ozone generator as they don't put out much ozone.
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HippyInASuit
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Re: Ozone Generator [Re: Elemicin]
#5597485 - 05/06/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It could work to kill bactera in the grow room before actually fruiting in there, but give the ozone a few hours after tretment to dissipate before using the room.
You wouldn't want to levae a big ozone generator like that running all the time, unless you wanted to neutralize odors from a different type of grow room, and hooked up a blower and ducting to move the ozone treated exaust from the room outside. If the other end of the unit looks the same as the fron end in the picture then you could probably hook it up "inline" into some ducting.
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DisGqBoi
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How about the Ionic Breeze? It converts ozone to oxygen and kills anything that goes thru it.
Edit: I guess its a bad idea. Just read on the mold-kill website with problems with ionizinizers.
Edited by DisGqBoi (05/06/06 12:00 PM)
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Feelers
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Re: Ozone Generator [Re: DisGqBoi]
#5598464 - 05/06/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Man I dont like the idea of pumping ozone into your house! I'm into marine aquariums and ozone is one of the possible additions you can add to your tank. You have to make sure the outflow is ducted outside. Its pretty dangerous stuff. It has a sweet pungent odor. Notice on that video it says its place in an "unoccupied room". I fail to see how your family is more at risk from mould and mildew than residual ozone.
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At least one death has been attributed to application of ozone through insufflation in the U.S. "Air cleaners" which produce "activated oxygen", i.e., ozone, are often sold in the U.S. nonetheless.
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Edgekrusher
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Re: Ozone Generator [Re: Feelers]
#5609916 - 05/09/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ozone breaks apart quickly when exposed to normal household conditions. I have an ozone generator in my grow room and have never had a contamination since its purchase. I only let it run in short increments when I'm not present. The smell it leaves behind is clean and fresh like the air after a lightningstorm. In addition to being an ozone generator, the unit also contains a HEPA filter, UV light, and Ion generator. I love the damn thing, but to each his own.
Atleast one death has been attributed to the drug Caffeine. Coffee is often sold in the U.S. nonetheless
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Roker
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ozone has a half life of roughly 30 mins - very reactive and very unstable. It will not kill spores but it will react with any moisture and things that contain moisture, such as your lungs and mycelia. it will bond with water to form h202 which is ok in small amounts but not so good in big amounts. you would probably be better off spending the dough on a vacuum cleaner.
by the way the death from ozone thing is about as likely as a death from a twinkie - it may happen but...
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Birthbytongue
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where did you find such a sweet little item? Would you like to drop a brand name?
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Re: Ozone Generator [Re: Roker]
#5617843 - 05/11/06 04:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not being able to access how that ozone death occured I cant say for sure, but I imagine a person perhaps fell asleep next to one or something. Which could be a real possibility for someone who didnt know about how it worked.
You are creating a temporary toxic gas in a room for a short peroid of time, and I can definately see that perhaps a pet or another person could be exposed to it unwittingly. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/appliances/ionizing-air-cleaners-505/overview.htm
Add that to the fact that they hardly work too.
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Tomandjerry58
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Re: Ozone Generator [Re: Feelers]
#5618180 - 05/11/06 05:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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we use them at work. primarily for odor control.it destroys all living organic material. first signs of exposure to humans are numb throat followed up by a nose bleed. to much exposure can kill you. although if you get in a room with one. you will want to get out in a hurry. because of the smell
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Edgekrusher
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The product I'm talking about is a Surround Air air purifying system. It's not a crazy hazardous industrial ozone generator, but it does have an ozone generating feature you can turn on and off. Not enough to do any noticable damage besides freshening the air. Still, I only run it when I'm not present.
http://www.surroundair.com/multi-tech-2.htm
Retail $200ish, but I scored one on Ebay for $40. new
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Tomandjerry58
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ozone generators are not very practicle for mushroom growth. think about it. when are you going to use it? before you start the grow operation would be the only time. spores and contaminates can still enter the room after the ozone treatment is done. even mold restoration companys don't normally use this. because it will not kill the spores inside pourous surfaces such as wood drywall.
use an air filtration device. and wipe down surfaces with disenfectants.
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Tomandjerry58
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found my little sheet on it. when ozone gas comes in contact with mouisture it forms hydrogen peroxide. so ur basicly just mildy bleaching the air because all air has mouisture in it. when dealing with contamintes don't be afraid to wipe down the walls with a disenfectant as well as the floor and other hard surfaces
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Tweexican
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no no,
ozone hsa been shown (at high concentrations) to kill both bacteria and mold spores.
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