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cappa
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Is rhyzo growth an important factor in spawn time?
#5400756 - 03/14/06 07:40 PM (18 years, 18 days ago) |
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The situation: Ok my WBS jars were fully colonized on the outside with the fuzzy myc 3 days ago. The next day I started seeing really heavy myc growth, I believe this is called Rhyzomorphic mycellium.
Now I'd say my jars have 15-20% of this heavy growth visible on them.
The question(s): Can I spawn to bulk substrate now? AND Is their any benefit to allowing the myc to become more rhyzomorphic?
Edited by cappa (03/14/06 07:47 PM)
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Re: Is rhyzo growth an important factor in spawn time? [Re: cappa]
#5400769 - 03/14/06 07:43 PM (18 years, 18 days ago) |
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I have noticed that rhizo growth is faster than cottony growth, and no let your jars fully colonize before spawning, if they only have 15-20% then you dont have much usable spawn anyways.
If you spawn the uncolonized grain your opening up to contams.
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Re: Is rhyzo growth an important factor in spawn time? [Re: MindsEye]
#5400782 - 03/14/06 07:48 PM (18 years, 18 days ago) |
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from what ive read, rhizo pins faster and stronger than tomentose. also, the purpose of rhizo is to expand the mycelial network quickly. this way the network can gather more nutrients faster.
think of mycelium as a little army trying to take over the substrate before the germs do. they have a few tricks up their sleeves...
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cappa
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Re: Is rhyzo growth an important factor in spawn time? [Re: MindsEye]
#5400783 - 03/14/06 07:48 PM (18 years, 18 days ago) |
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Just edited my post a little so it's more clear. The jars were colonized 3 days ago completely with fuzzy myc. THEN the heavy growth reared it's sexa head.
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shymanta
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Re: Is rhyzo growth an important factor in spawn time? [Re: cappa]
#5400909 - 03/14/06 08:22 PM (18 years, 18 days ago) |
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Patients. Let it go until its done. When it finishes the grain it will be hungry for you bulk substrate. Otherwise it will still have to eat the grain while trying to colonize the bulk. I think this would open the bulk to possible contamination.
Edit: Then by all mean spawn away. But I'm thinking if you let the rhyzo growth get bigger it will have better odds. Either way let us know.
Edited by shymanta (03/14/06 08:25 PM)
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cappa
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Re: Is rhyzo growth an important factor in spawn time? [Re: shymanta]
#5400962 - 03/14/06 08:38 PM (18 years, 18 days ago) |
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Not discounting anyone but.. Any old hands out there care to inform us? Any benefit to waiting past normal spawn time and letting it go rhyzo before spawning?
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cappa
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Re: Is rhyzo growth an important factor in spawn time? [Re: cappa]
#5401018 - 03/14/06 08:55 PM (18 years, 18 days ago) |
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Well hmm.. I guess I can wait for the answer. But I'm going to spawn and case right now. Wish me luck!
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Re: Is rhyzo growth an important factor in spawn time? [Re: cappa]
#5401122 - 03/14/06 09:26 PM (18 years, 18 days ago) |
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Once a jar is colonized with cotton like growth, it will often change to rhyzo growth, because it is LOOKING for more nutrients.
Rhyzo growth is like its hiking boots, for long walks.
Rhyzo form at the glass wall. Because it acts like a fence. Myc puts on its walking shoes (rhyzo growth), with the idea of climbing the fence, so it can look for new sources of nutrients.
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Re: Is rhyzo growth an important factor in spawn time? [Re: agar]
#5401140 - 03/14/06 09:30 PM (18 years, 18 days ago) |
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Quote:
agar said: Rhyzo growth is like its hiking boots, for long walks.
I like that Lol
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cappa
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Re: Is rhyzo growth an important factor in spawn time? [Re: MindsEye]
#5401533 - 03/14/06 11:03 PM (18 years, 18 days ago) |
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Ah now that's what I was looking for. Thanks Agar! I decided to be patient so I didn't already case.
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Re: Is rhyzo growth an important factor in spawn time? [Re: cappa]
#5406141 - 03/15/06 09:54 PM (18 years, 17 days ago) |
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Naturally, this all depends on the species too. Pan Cyans can run circles around cubensis in terms of colonization times, yet they never have rhizos.
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